Disputatio Categoriae:Personae Legendarii Tolkien

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Simulatus ex obsoleta categoria Personae Ficticiae Tolkiensis[fontem recensere]

Sequarne?[fontem recensere]

Please let met know if you are not comfortable with this category. Else I will continue in a few days if there is no objections.

Nisi velis ut sequar, dic aliquam sententiam tuam si tibi placeat. Jondel (disputatio) 13:55, 21 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unde adiectivum ficticius, -a, -um ? Participium fingendi est fictus, -a, -um. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:58, 21 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Solum simulavi ('copy' cito feci). Adeo qualibet 'Categoriae:Personae fictae Tolkiensis' ,tibi?Jondel (disputatio) 14:09, 21 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
About "ficticius": I have been guilty of using this word (perhaps I invented it) but I fear Iacobus is right to criticise it. "Fictus/fictae" is shorter and better, I would agree.
I don't know what form "Tolkiensis" is. While thinking about this, Jondel, are you sure you mean any of Tolkien's characters, or do you really mean "Fictional characters of Middle Earth"?
Please, both of you, comment on these suggestions! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:12, 21 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I should study and go over the discussions in other related articles. Tolkiensis was, ahh, well, invented :( .
Hmm, we all invent things occasionally (see above). I understand the attraction of "Tolkiensis", but I think it is too-much-collapsed -- a sort of portmanteau compound :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:11, 22 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just some thoughts.
Middle earth
  • may be confused with our real world as midgard of Nordic mythology.
  • might not be obvious as the fictional Universe (or age before the the modern age)in Tolkien's tales.
From your suggestions I would like to use: Categoria:Personae fictae I. R. R. Tolkien and place the duces under this. Is this Ok with all?Jondel (disputatio) 10:19, 22 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We could also create this with the existing article into a category:Personae Legendarii Tolkien.--Jondel (disputatio) 10:29, 22 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your last suggestion, Categoria:Personae Legendarii Tolkien seems fine to me. I agree, once you have created the category -- whatever name we choose -- the "Duces gentium in Terra Media" should be in it or should be a subcategory of it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:31, 22 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Vide systema categoriarum in en:Category:Middle-earth characters (h.e., Personae Terrae Mediae). IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:44, 22 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Vidi et videtur nisi omnes plerumque pertinent ad Tolkien.Jondel (disputatio) 11:54, 22 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Optime. Consensus videtur. Macte omnibus (Andrew et Iacobo et alia). Cum venia vestra iam creem Categoria:Personae Legendarii Tolkien cum Duce infra et ordinem. Jondel (disputatio) 12:02, 22 Maii 2013 (UTC)[reply]