Disputatio Categoriae:Havaiani indigenae

Indigenae Havaiani or Havaiani indigenae?

I thought this word order would be better for filing and searching, and it's only in a smallish number of cases that we will need the word "indigenae" before names of gentes. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:27, 14 Maii 2010 (UTC)

Ethnicity?

Is this category about ethnicity? We once had a discussion about whether to categorize people by ethnic origin/ethnicity here: Disputatio Categoriae:Actores Civitatum Foederatarum origine ethnica digesti#Should we get into this? --UV (disputatio) 21:29, 14 Augusti 2013 (UTC)

Fun, isn't it, reading these old discussions :) I had quite forgotten that particular debate.

One of the concerns there was BLP. Briefly, it is always impossible to define ethnicity without use of POV, and this matters more than ever in the case of living subjects. I'd still argue strongly, in the case of living subjects, we shouldn't go that way.

However, we may well need categories for peoples (tribes, etc.). There surely should be an article about the indigenous Hawaiian people, and there could be a corresponding category, into which one would be free to place historical biographical articles when relevant. I think, somewhere else ... :), we agreed that categories for groups of people, families and tribes should not come under Categoria:Homines. I'd suggest that this category is worth having, possibly renamed, and that its principal commentatio would be the not-yet-existing Populus Havaianus indigena, corresponding to en:Native Hawaiians. How do others feel about that?

NB Populus and tribus in Latin are not necessarily ethnic, but rather cultural/social/political. You could join.Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:05, 15 Augusti 2013 (UTC)

Fine, a category not confined in scope to individual persons sounds good. --UV (disputatio) 19:18, 15 Augusti 2013 (UTC)