Disputatio:Hermannus
Quid ergo cogitemus de Hermann Hesse? Mutandum? --Neander 19:35, 15 Octobris 2008 (UTC)
Hermannus? Source, please.[fontem recensere]
A dead link leads us nowhere. The Romans used the word "Arminius" for Hermann, and if nobody objects, I think we should use this instead.--Nicolaus Augurinus (disputatio) 21:33, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
- It isn't clear that "Arminius" represented Hermann to the Romans, though some notable authors old and new have believed it, including Martinus Lutherus (so I'm told) and Robertus Graves. There are many later sources for the conversion Hermann > "Hermannus": I have just cited one at Hermannus Hesse. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:08, 22 Martii 2023 (UTC)
- I have now cited some other sources and moved some other cases of "Arminius" to "Hermannus". If there is no source, should we in general prefer Armin > Arminius but Hermann > Hermannus? I think we should, but others may disagree. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:07, 22 Martii 2023 (UTC)
- Fontibus rite citatis, "Arminios" recentiores nonnullos in "Hermannos" mutavi. Quid faciamus si fontem nullum de praenomine Latino hominum recentiorum habeamus? Mea mente, Armin > Arminius sed Hermann > Hermannus. Alii quid censent? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:07, 22 Martii 2023 (UTC)
- Tacitus in Germania (§2) says the German people stem from a certain Mannus, son of the god Tuisto. This Mannus is stated in the Loeb edition to mean 'man', presumably therefore a Latin rendering of the German word now written as Mann. If that word in turn relates to the mann in the name Hermann, we'd have a pertinent though partial classical attestation. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:30, 22 Martii 2023 (UTC)
- Nice one. It now seems an obvious place to look, but I never thought of it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:36, 22 Martii 2023 (UTC)
- Tacitus in Germania (§2) says the German people stem from a certain Mannus, son of the god Tuisto. This Mannus is stated in the Loeb edition to mean 'man', presumably therefore a Latin rendering of the German word now written as Mann. If that word in turn relates to the mann in the name Hermann, we'd have a pertinent though partial classical attestation. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 16:30, 22 Martii 2023 (UTC)