Disputatio Usoris:Wname1

Warning[fontem recensere]

Please don't remove templates from the top of a Vicipaedia page unless you have corrected the problem stated in the template. In the case of Oligodendroglioma anaplasticum, the template said the page is not in Latin. That's true: it looks to me as if was written by Google Translate, which, sadly, doesn't know Latin.

If you really really want to add a page to Vicipaedia, and you don't know much Latin, the best way will be to write something quite brief and ask on the Vicipaedia:Taberna if someone will help you turn it into real Latin. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:43, 16 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Dalby, if Oligodendroglioma anaplasticum is false then delete it. Wname1 (disputatio) 20:17, 16 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The {{Pagina autotranslata}} template was created exactly not to delete pages immediately (not so long ago it would have been done), giving instead a week to latinize the page. If you tell Google Translate to translate the en:Anaplastic oligodendroglioma page from English Wikipedia you can see it by yourself that the result is quite similar, with only few corrections here and there. Vicipaedia does not forbid to use automatic translation tools, as long as you are able to 100% correct their barbarisms. --Grufo (disputatio) 20:29, 16 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oligodendroglioma "anaplasticum" is not false, but its use has been deprecated in 2021. The use of the "anaplastic" designator was in scientific debate already some years before. Since 2021 genetic findings such as mutations of the isocitrate dehydrogenase (IDH) as well of chromosomes 1 and 19 ("codeletion") have been added to the current classification. The current pagina, therefore, needs an adaption, being renamed to "oligodendroglioma" tantum, and carefully rewritten. Andreas Raether (disputatio) 11:51, 17 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @Andreas Raether:, that explains why I could not find "Oligodendroglioma anaplasticum" in the current WHO terminology, even though it is used in fairly recent eastern European scientific papers. I will rename the page again in case you (or anyone) wishes to write a short article using some of the contents of the present page. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:29, 17 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Andrew Dalby:, on your "Notae" 1. are only Informationa's about "oligodendroglioma anaplasticum" where is the information that it is an "Oligodendroglioma"? Wname1 (disputatio) 18:00, 17 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See my comment above: I leave it to those who know medical science better than I do to correct the page and make it useful if they wish. Meanwhile the term "Oligodendroglioma" alone is easily found in medical literature. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:48, 18 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The definition of an anaplastic oligodendroglioma as an oligodendroglioma can be found in the former WHO-classification 2016, which referred to an emergent absence ("anaplastic") of a classic histology - the neuropathological diagnosis requires genetic testing for codeletion (1p19q codel) - which since 2021 became the main criterium ("Oligodendroglioma, IDH-mutant, and 1p/19q-codeleted"), and other markers have been included ("IDH1, IDH2, 1p/19q, TERT promoter, CIC, FUBP1, NOTCH1"). Andreas Raether (disputatio) 10:38, 18 Decembris 2023 (UTC)[reply]