Disputatio:Archaeopteryx

genus

Genus feminimum esse videtur (Archaeopteryx lithographica). --Alex1011 (disputatio) 19:14, 11 Octobris 2019 (UTC)

Recte dicis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:37, 12 Octobris 2019 (UTC)

Et casus genitivus esse videtur Archaeopterygis (non -icis) --Alex1011 (disputatio) 11:07, 12 Octobris 2019 (UTC)

Cladus

Not seeing the cladus Avialae in the taxobox. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:09, 12 Octobris 2019 (UTC)

You only get out of the taxobox what you put in. Avialae isn't currently there, so you don't see it. That's normal!

OK, I know, next question: how to put it in. This isn't obvious, because Avialae is an unranked clade and there are several unranked clades in sequence among the Ur-birds (cf. Eucotyledones ... Rosidae in botany).

• To deal with this independently in the Wikipedia taxobox (in English or any language) you have to note what useful named levels are nearest above and below, and place your desired clade between. In this case, I see from Fossilworks that Avialae is placed (at least by some) below an order Avetheropoda, parallel with an infraorder Oviraptorosauria, and above a family Archaeopterygidae. So we might take a stab at "unranked_superfamilia" or "unranked_infraordo".
• For speed, you can nearly always copy what the Spaniards have done. If you look at the taxobox on the pages es:Avialae and es:Archaeopteryx in the Spanish Wikipedia, you see the line

| unranked_familia=  [[Avialae]]

• You can just copy that line into our page. I'll do it now and see what happens. [Pause 1 minute.] Yes, that worked. If there was some conflict meaning that the resulting order of displayed taxa was wrong, the solution would be to make it an unranked_ something else, as I suggested above, rather than an unranked_familia.

By the way, when wanting new taxoboxes for new articles, you can take them from the equivalent Spanish article almost 100% of the time. Practically nothing needs to be changed, except the image caption, which you would have to translate anyway. It's what I've been doing for years. The English ones always need more adjustment ... or, if they are "automatic taxoboxes", they are useless. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:48, 22 Octobris 2019 (UTC)

It's maybe worth adding a design point. Currently, in my revised design, the traditional Linnaean clades are titled "Familia" (etc.) while unranked clades are given no title. I personally prefer not to multiply uninformative words. But if you feel that the word "Cladus" would fill a yawning gap, it would be easy to add it in all such cases. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:14, 22 Octobris 2019 (UTC)