Disputatio Categoriae:Incolae Angliae
ex pagina Disputatio Categoriae:Homines Anglici[fontem recensere]
Reasons:
- This category hasn't got Categoria:Homines secundum terram as a supercat. anyway
- Since in that supercat. the pages are classified according to modern states, I suggest Categoria:Homines Britanniarum Regni instead.
--Iovis Fulmen 11:41, 9 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- The reason it hasn't got Categoria:Homines secundum terram as a supercat is that Anglia is geographically part of Britannia, so it has Categoria:Britanni as a higher level category, and that in turn has Categoria:Homines secundum terram as its supercat.
- This is not one of the easiest ones to sort out. The problems with "Regnum Britanniarum" are (a) it has no meaning before, say, the 18th century; (b) it currently includes all of Britain (but not all of the outlying islands) and a quarter of Ireland. These problems might make it more difficult to categorise people in practice, especially historical people.
- In my view (but others may well disagree!) it may make sense to retain the geographical/traditional divisions:
- Britannia
- Anglia
- Cambria
- Scotia
- Hibernia
- I think it's a fact that people do tend to self-identify, and to identify others, with these divisions. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:33, 9 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- Incidentally, whatever is decided in this case, I think (and maybe you do too) that the pattern "Homines XXXiae" is better in practice than any of the others. Patterns like "Britanni" and "Homines Anglici" are, I now think, inadvisable, because they imply ethnicity; this makes categorising more difficult and contentious. But this is another matter on which others may have quite different views! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:53, 9 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- To round off the discussion: the preferred form, as discussed elsewhere, is now Incolae XXXiae. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:01, 15 Decembris 2008 (UTC)
- Incidentally, whatever is decided in this case, I think (and maybe you do too) that the pattern "Homines XXXiae" is better in practice than any of the others. Patterns like "Britanni" and "Homines Anglici" are, I now think, inadvisable, because they imply ethnicity; this makes categorising more difficult and contentious. But this is another matter on which others may have quite different views! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:53, 9 Augusti 2008 (UTC)