Disputatio Categoriae:Auctores Samoani
Auctores vs. Scriptores[fontem recensere]
What's the difference between this category and [[Categoria:Auctores Samoani]] (aside from the fact that the latter has many more members)? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:57, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
- Err, this is [[Categoria:Auctores Samoani]]. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:18, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
- Yes! And that's not literally what was meant. Kudos to your reading skills! IacobusAmor (disputatio) 18:41, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
- The difference between this and "Scriptores Samoae" is that "Scriptores Samoae" should contain authors who work or worked in Samoa; "Auctores Samoani" should contain authors who write/wrote in Samoan. The headnote on the category page already says this. [NB: That last sentence is not meant to carry a note of impatience -- sorry if it seems to -- but rather of relief! I intended to write such notes where confusion might arise, so I'm glad that I remembered to do so here :)] Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:18, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
- We've been through this before, and as you see, the distinction hasn't stuck. (Is there something counterintuitive about it?) For Scriptores Samoae, the little gray cells, apparently "correctly," go right to 'writers native of or resident in Samoa', but then, for auctores Samoani, they default to 'ethnic Samoans who originated things (e.g., books in any language, sculptures in any genre, etc.)', and that's apparently incorrect, on at least two counts. ¶ Some of this categorizing is incomplete or mysterious. T. S. Eliot, for example, is listed as one of the Scriptores Civitatum Foederatarum, but not one of the Scriptores Angliae, but Wystanus Hugo Auden, who made the opposite migration, gets categorized under both countries. (If we included all the countries in which Auden was staying when he composed poems, we'd have to add Austria, Italy, and China, not to mention the international region of the high seas.) Is there a criterion for deciding which countries can count somebody as "their" poet or writer? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 18:41, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
- Any number can -- categories, like entities, can be multiplied. So, for example, if Auden and Eliot had literary careers in both countries, they should be scriptores of both countries. Would that make sense?
- Yes, I agree that it can be difficult to remember the exact meaning of the "Auctores ..." names. Short names are good because they are quick to type, but explicit names are good because you can't misunderstand them. So, by all means suggest a more perfect pattern. Vicipaedia is a work in progress ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:11, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)
- We've been through this before, and as you see, the distinction hasn't stuck. (Is there something counterintuitive about it?) For Scriptores Samoae, the little gray cells, apparently "correctly," go right to 'writers native of or resident in Samoa', but then, for auctores Samoani, they default to 'ethnic Samoans who originated things (e.g., books in any language, sculptures in any genre, etc.)', and that's apparently incorrect, on at least two counts. ¶ Some of this categorizing is incomplete or mysterious. T. S. Eliot, for example, is listed as one of the Scriptores Civitatum Foederatarum, but not one of the Scriptores Angliae, but Wystanus Hugo Auden, who made the opposite migration, gets categorized under both countries. (If we included all the countries in which Auden was staying when he composed poems, we'd have to add Austria, Italy, and China, not to mention the international region of the high seas.) Is there a criterion for deciding which countries can count somebody as "their" poet or writer? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 18:41, 2 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)