Disputatio:Collyra

"Noodles" in Latin[fontem recensere]

Thanks Jondel for the Latin name. :)

Actually my lexicon Norstedt (second and latest edition of 2009) says for "noodles" one word: collyra (f) (with no indication of where it should be stressed; it could either mean that it was forgotten, or that it should be stressed at the second to last syllable), and for "macaroni" two words: first cóllyra (f) (with the indication of stressing at the third to last syllable) and then pasta tubulata (f). So I was about to ask about the name for "noodles" in Latin. What does collyra mean, and how should it be stressed?

Donatello (disputatio) 14:09, 27 Augusti 2013 (UTC).[reply]

The stress is at the second syllable.e.g. collȳra. In my Traupman it means pasta, noodles, and macaroni. Pasta and ~~macarani~~macaroni are a form of dry noodles. Macaroni also has collyra and pasta tabulata (same as your dictionary? ).Jondel (disputatio) 15:15, 27 Augusti 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unio paginarum pastae vermiculatae et collyrae[fontem recensere]

Pars accepta a: Disputatio:Pasta vermiculata § Unio paginarum pastae vermiculatae et collyrae – Duae paginae unitae sunt. --Grufo

The terms collyra and collyricus are really ancient, up to the point that already in Plautus they get translated to English with “vermicelli”; pasta vermiculata ultimately expresses the same concept. So I think we basically have two options:

Keep collyra for “an ancient form of pasta vermiculata” (and focus on ancient recipes)
Merge pasta vermiculata and collyra into one page

Personally, I would opt for the second option. --Grufo (disputatio) 04:45, 29 Maii 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see that the Chinese and Italian wikis each have a single article covering this concept. That suggests to me that we should too. Collyra, being classical, is the term to choose. As I said elsewhere, "pasta vermiculata" sounds like a description (and quite a good one) rather than a name. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:58, 29 Maii 2023 (UTC)[reply]

“Sounds like a description (and quite a good one) rather than a name”: That's what I always try to tell my German friends, that their language doesn't use words, but ~~compound words~~ descriptions instead! :-) --Grufo (disputatio) 14:57, 29 Maii 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nova. I have now merged the two pages. --Grufo (disputatio) 02:56, 7 Iunii 2023 (UTC)[reply]