Disputatio Categoriae:Scriptores Russiae
disputatio mota ex Disputatio Categoriae:Scriptores Imperii Russici et Unionis Sovieticae[fontem recensere]
I suggest creating separate categories for the writers of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union, because only some writers which are at present included into this category lived and worked in both of these 2 countries. I also stand for including there not the whole categories, sorting writers by country, but only separate pages. Doing so, we can avoid such situations, as that with Categoria:Scriptores Casachiae, where the only page, which is present at the moment, is about a person, who lived long before the lands of the present-day Kazakhstan were parts of the Russian Empire and the USSR. -- Alexander Gerascenco 14:43, 5 Novembris 2008 (UTC)
- I don't find the Alpharabius thing a problem. But if you do, and can see a solution to it, fine!
- I have a low opinion of governments, and therefore I think it's better when our categories don't depend on changes of government. Also, the problem with having a different category for each successive state is that people, perforce, live and work under more than one of them: all those people then have to go in more than one category. But if you really think it would help readers, I have no strong objection.
- To me, the important categories are those that cover a geographical area (like Categoria:Scriptores Russiae and Categoria:Scriptores Casachiae. I would object to removing writers from those categories in favour of some short-term political one. This present category was just intended as an extra kind of approach to the same main categories. If you think it causes confusion, maybe the simpler way would be to delete it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:10, 5 Novembris 2008 (UTC)
- In my opinion, categories like Categoria:Scriptores Russiae and Categoria:Scriptores Casachiae do not just cover a geographical area, but reflect the present-day political division. As I agree that it is important to show, which state or states the territories where a person, described in an article, lived and worked now belong to, I am not the one to suggest removing articles from these categories in favour of the categories showing the political division of the period of the person's activity. But as that former political division was probably much more important for the person described, I find it useful to reflect it using a special category. But I think that (at least now) it would be usually enough to have some general categories, like Categoria:Homines Unionis Sovieticae, for this purpose. -- Alexander Gerascenco 17:20, 5 Novembris 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, everything that you say makes good sense. I think it would be a very sensible solution. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:00, 5 Novembris 2008 (UTC)
- In my opinion, categories like Categoria:Scriptores Russiae and Categoria:Scriptores Casachiae do not just cover a geographical area, but reflect the present-day political division. As I agree that it is important to show, which state or states the territories where a person, described in an article, lived and worked now belong to, I am not the one to suggest removing articles from these categories in favour of the categories showing the political division of the period of the person's activity. But as that former political division was probably much more important for the person described, I find it useful to reflect it using a special category. But I think that (at least now) it would be usually enough to have some general categories, like Categoria:Homines Unionis Sovieticae, for this purpose. -- Alexander Gerascenco 17:20, 5 Novembris 2008 (UTC)