Disputatio:Piranha

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As far as I can see, "piranha" is a Portuguese and English name for an informal group. It's not a taxon. So, either we move this to "Serrasalminae" (which is the closest relevant taxon, and is the name of the relevant category at Commons), or we delete the taxobox. I haven't at present done either, but I added "Subfamilia = Serrasalminae", a line that was omitted from the taxobox, and deleted "Tribus = Piranha", faithfully copied from en:wiki but false. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:21, 11 Maii 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The classification seems to be problematic and in dispute, but the most pertinent fact for organizing the articles is that the topic specified in the list of 10,000 indispensable articles is piranha, excluding the pacu and the silver dollar, which are apparently also counted among the Serrasalminae. Perhaps the best thing would be to keep the article Piranha where it is, but to delete the taxobox—and yet the other wikis that I checked (German, Portuguese, Spanish) do have a taxobox. The French one (I now see) seems to have an informally styled taxobox; maybe inventing something like that would be a good idea. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 19:57, 11 Maii 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I realised that the list of 10,000 was in your sights!
If the page is moved, it would have to be linked with the article "Serrasalmininae" in some other languages, so it would no longer serve the higher purpose. Therefore I agree, let's not move it. We might find "piranha" in a Latin source. It might even have been proposed as a taxon once upon a time, which would be really nice, but I've seen no sign of it.
Meanwhile we aren't here to pretend this is a taxon if it isn't, so I think the effort of imitating the taxobox would be better spent on improving this or other articles. OK? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:24, 12 Maii 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Pirania turns out to be is an extinct genus of sea sponge, so there's that. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:46, 12 Maii 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've already moved on to the sturgeons (posting soon). Btw, does Vicipaedia somewhere have a table of the Latin terms corresponding to the internationally authorized degrees of worry: of least concern, vulnerable, critically endangered, and so forth? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 11:42, 12 Maii 2020 (UTC)[reply]