Disputatio:Globulus

Oooh, where does the equation of globus and ἔγκρις occur? That would be useful for me. --Iustinus 06:22, 6 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probably it's just an equation made somewhere in the works of Dalby. Maybe in a footnote in "The Satyrica concluded". Shall I send you a copy? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:25, 6 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think I may have a copy of that already, although if I do it's a xerox copy in Chicago, so I can't get at it. --Iustinus 02:49, 7 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are listed in "Cakes" in Andrew Dalby, Food in the Ancient World from A to Z (Londinii, 2003. ISBN 0415232597) p. 70, but without rechecking I don't know right now if any of them equated the Greek word with the Latin one. So far as I know, I am the first to observe that Agamemnon, in Petronius, was comparing florid eloquence with a doughnut or rum baba. Andrew Dalby (disputatio)

OK, you cite Athenaeus and Stesichorus, who do indeed support the idea. Again, I need to talk to you about the globus family... --Iustinus 02:49, 7 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One of these days I'll need to email you why I'm interested in that equation. --Iustinus 16:40, 6 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

probably this should be moved to globulus (cibus) since it isn't the primary meaning of the term.--123.192.69.44 19:52, 6 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A valid point. Though perhaps most of the other meanings would be covered under globus anyway? --Iustinus 00:23, 7 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, or not, because globus is currently a redirect to globulus --Iustinus 02:27, 7 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the difficulty is the redirect (I think). This sense surely is the earliest meaning of globulus (scientific meanings would have turned up many centuries later). So the answer will be to write a page (and perhaps a discretiva) on globus, thus replacing the redirect.

But although I think that's the best way, I don't mind :) Nothing wrong with "Globulus (cibus)". Andrew Dalby (disputatio)

Huh, I coud see the culinary meaning evolving into the geometric/scientific meanings, but how did it get the military meaning? --Iustinus 09:31, 7 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When and in which author is there a military sense of "globulus"?

But I admit that this is not the only early sense of globulus, which evidently serves as a diminutive of globus whenever required; so, as I say, I have no objection to "globulus (cibus)" if that seems best. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:08, 7 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I guess you specified the diminutive, but I had assumed you meant your claim to apply to globus in general. I don't believe a military globus ever appears in the diminutive, so nevermind. --Iustinus 10:17, 7 Iunii 2011 (UTC)[reply]