Disputatio:Civitas Unita Russiae et Rutheniae Albae
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Lemma[fontem recensere]
For 'union', Cassell's (1968) gives: "the act of uniting," (con)iunctio, consociatio, congregatio ; "agreement," consensio, consensus, concordia ; "united body," societas, sodalitas, concilium. For 'unite', Cassell's gives: [transitive] (con)iungere, copulare, congregare, (con)sociare, miscere ; [intransitive] coire, consentire, or render by passive of transitive verbs, as in societatum (cum homine) inire. No hint of any form of unio and unire. Likewise Ainsworth's (18th century). Likewise White's (1938). Likewise Traupman (2007). L&S say the verb unire is "post-Aug. and very rare." So would, say, Civitas Coniuncta be an apter lemma? After all, the pertinent states remain separate & distinct— conjoined, as it were, not completely & thoroughly (omnino & penitus) turned into one. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:52, 30 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC)
- Of course it may not be irrelevant that Romance languages (French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish) and Germanic languages (English, Dutch, German) find a reflex of unio to be acceptable. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:58, 30 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC)
- Me, it's either way. I had actually thought of "coniuncta", but "unita" seemed to be so much closer to the translation in many other languages. In Russian, it's an adjective derived from the noun "союз", which we would translate with "unio" without hesitation (as in URSS). But as I said, I don't really have a preference. If you want to move, I'm okay with that. Sigur (disputatio) 14:41, 30 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC)