Disputatio:Tonus (musica)

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[recensere] Minor/major versus dur/moll

I would had though that in Latin one would use the term dur and moll (from durus and mollis) rather than minor and major? --BiT 01:10, 23 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)

Much current musical terminology was worked out in Latin in the Middle Ages, and the text of this article is way off in certain particulars, which we must revisit someday. IacobusAmor 14:35, 19 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

[recensere] Sound (sonus?), pitch (frequentia?), tone (tonus), note (nota)

These are technical terms, with definitions of a preciseness that people often ignore. Here's a simple, off-the-top-of-the-head distinction:

1. Sound = anything audible; not just a musical reference.

2. Pitch = any sound at a specific frequency (Hz) or (loosely) range of frequencies; not just a musical reference.

3. Tone = any pitch or range of pitches treated within a musical system as a musical unit.

4. Note = any tone that has duration in a piece of music; or its representation in writing.

The important point in #3 is that musical systems disregard (sometimes wide) variations in pitch: frequencies of 438, 439, 440, 440.01. 440.02, 441, and 444 Hz may all function as the same tone, even though they manifestly have different pitches. Someday we can elaborate on this, but right now I have to run. IacobusAmor 14:35, 19 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

Most of these are easy (as noted above)

1. Sound = sonus

2. Pitch = ?

3. Tone = Tonus

4. Note = Nota

except for pitch. Based on romance language pages, we could use altitudo. Alternatively, frequentia would do I think.--Rafaelgarcia 14:49, 19 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)

[recensere] At the moment

At the moment, the first paragraph is a definition of pitch, with an imago that (by using a musical staff) is an illustration of tone, and the later part of the commentarium is a discussion of tone—so this article needs to be split into Tonus and Frequentia (or Sonus, if that's OK for 'pitch') and fixed. It's safe to say that most people, even those who should know better, use pitch, tone, and note in a confused, sometimes seemingly random, way; but that's no reason that an encyclopedia should do the same. IacobusAmor 14:42, 19 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)