Disputatio:Cairus

sive Cairum

Care 190.20.102.127, usor ignote, adest attestatio? IacobusAmor 18:31, 16 Novembris 2008 (UTC)

Fustat & Babylon

Fusṭāṭ is actually supposed to be derived from Fossātum... whether or not that name is actually attested in Latin writings, I cannot say, but I would be surprised if no Greek or Latin source of the period mentions it. Fusṭāṭ/Cairo also happens to be founded near the site of the ancient Egyptian city which the Greeks and Romans called Babylon (Aegypti), and in fact I can cite an eighth century coptic document (P.KRU 5 v, if you're interested), which still refers to it by that name. So the name Babylon should probably get more mention than it currently has. --Iustinus (disputatio) 14:37, 26 Augusti 2012 (UTC)

Cairus quae olim Babylon

I have yet to find an attestation of Fossatum in Latin, but Φόσσατον seems to be well attested in 7—8th century Greek papyri, so I think it's safe to say that Fossatum is the legitimate Latin name of Fusṭāṭ. Note also that the equation of Cairo and Babylon-of-Egypt does seem to have been forgotten either: Fasciculus:Cairo map1549 pagano.jpg, en:Babylon Fortress. --Iustinus (disputatio) 15:04, 27 Augusti 2012 (UTC)

I added a quote from William of Tyre who says it is popularly called "Babylon", but elsewhere he seems to use it to refer to Fustat, as in "Babylonia et Cahere". He also mentions Alexandria, Bilbeis, and Damietta. The French crusade chronicles also refer to "Babilone" or "Babiloinne" (Jean de Joinville for example). Adam Episcopus (disputatio) 10:57, 28 Augusti 2012 (UTC)