Disputatio:Hiericus
The name for Jericho in the Vulgate is Hiericho, which this page ought to be renamed to. Chris Weimer (disputatio) 06:39, 20 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- Possibly -- and thanks to Xaverius for adding a precise citation, following your suggestion -- but the Vulgate is one source among others. Is the spelling with Hi- generally preferred? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:18, 20 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- I would think that an ancient spelling is more preferable to some 17th century spelling (just looking at the citations on both). Chris Weimer (disputatio) 15:32, 20 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- Trying the three Google searches "jericho" "urbs", "iericho" "urbs", "hiericho" "urbs", the first two options (which in Vicipaedia's orthography are the same) score higher -- but all three do quite well. My impression is that "hiericho" is used more in ancient and medieval Latin, "iericho" from the Renaissance onwards. We happen to cite "some 17th century spelling" from the biggest Latin encyclopaedia ever: that's quite a good precedent in its way, but so is the Vulgate. Any other opinions? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:38, 20 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- This is similar to the debate about Panormus vs. Panhormus—whether to follow the classical or post-classical/medieval/Renaissance spelling. Note that the Clementine Vulgate has "Jericho". "Hiericho" is from the Stuttgart Vulgate, which is indeed supposed to reflect the ancient manuscripts more closely, and which has lots of h's (Israhel, etc.). Lesgles (disputatio) 15:00, 22 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- In fact, the "true" classical spelling might be Pliny's Hiericus, -untis. See also Logeion, Hiericus, Jericho, Iericho. Lesgles (disputatio) 15:04, 22 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- I vote for Pliny then--Xaverius 16:12, 22 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- Me too! Neander (disputatio) 17:11, 22 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- I vote for Pliny then--Xaverius 16:12, 22 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- In fact, the "true" classical spelling might be Pliny's Hiericus, -untis. See also Logeion, Hiericus, Jericho, Iericho. Lesgles (disputatio) 15:04, 22 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- This is similar to the debate about Panormus vs. Panhormus—whether to follow the classical or post-classical/medieval/Renaissance spelling. Note that the Clementine Vulgate has "Jericho". "Hiericho" is from the Stuttgart Vulgate, which is indeed supposed to reflect the ancient manuscripts more closely, and which has lots of h's (Israhel, etc.). Lesgles (disputatio) 15:00, 22 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- Trying the three Google searches "jericho" "urbs", "iericho" "urbs", "hiericho" "urbs", the first two options (which in Vicipaedia's orthography are the same) score higher -- but all three do quite well. My impression is that "hiericho" is used more in ancient and medieval Latin, "iericho" from the Renaissance onwards. We happen to cite "some 17th century spelling" from the biggest Latin encyclopaedia ever: that's quite a good precedent in its way, but so is the Vulgate. Any other opinions? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:38, 20 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)
- I would think that an ancient spelling is more preferable to some 17th century spelling (just looking at the citations on both). Chris Weimer (disputatio) 15:32, 20 Aprilis 2018 (UTC)