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:::::::::::Our anonymous user should note that "diminishing God" would be an impossible, indeed inconceivable, procedure for us mortals. I'm surprised she even thinks of it. <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]]<font color="green">[[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby| Dalby]]</font></font> 15:07, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Our anonymous user should note that "diminishing God" would be an impossible, indeed inconceivable, procedure for us mortals. I'm surprised she even thinks of it. <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]]<font color="green">[[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby| Dalby]]</font></font> 15:07, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::I meant virtual (as virtuality) diminishing of God, performed by knowers of full global 32-letter Greek alphabet, by excluding Him from keeping His Holy Rule over Digamma, Stigma, Heta, Jot, San, Sho, Qoppa and Sampi by calling Him only Alpha and Omega = 24 letters = 75% of all existing letters, while God really keeps His Holy Rule over Alpha and Sampi = 32 letters = 100% of all existing letters. Of course God is not possible to real (as reality) diminishing in any way, because He is always constant and unchangeable Infinity. God called Himself Alpha and Omega only for reason of being understood by Ionians that didn't knew missing 8 letters, because their local 24-letter Ionian alphabet beginning with Alpha and ending with Omega was locally perceived as Beginning and End. But our current knowledge about full global Greek alphabet obliges us to call Him Alpha and Sampi to express His Omnipotence without any exclusions. [[Specialis:Conlationes/87.96.63.125|87.96.63.125]] 18:18, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::I meant virtual (as virtuality) diminishing of God, performed by knowers of full global 32-letter Greek alphabet, by excluding Him from keeping His Holy Rule over Digamma, Stigma, Heta, Jot, San, Sho, Qoppa and Sampi by calling Him only Alpha and Omega = 24 letters = 75% of all existing letters, while God really keeps His Holy Rule over Alpha and Sampi = 32 letters = 100% of all existing letters. Of course God is not possible to real (as reality) diminishing in any way, because He is always constant and unchangeable Infinity. God called Himself Alpha and Omega only for reason of being understood by Ionians that didn't knew missing 8 letters, because their local 24-letter Ionian alphabet beginning with Alpha and ending with Omega was locally perceived as Beginning and End. But our current knowledge about full global Greek alphabet obliges us to call Him Alpha and Sampi to express His Omnipotence without any exclusions. [[Specialis:Conlationes/87.96.63.125|87.96.63.125]] 18:18, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)
:It is not in the interests of an accurate and reliable encyclopaedia to misquote or change the content of any source we are quoting. Therefore it is not in our interests to rename this page "Alpha et Sampi", or whatever you are proposing. Is that OK?


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Emendatio ex 22:38, 18 Iunii 2008

Alpha and Sampi

Full global Greek alphabet is as follows:

It begins with Alpha, and ends with Sampi. That means that Omega in this case is not final letter, because after Omega is placed too Sampi. Due to this fact, in this case God is not only local Ionian Alpha and Omega, because He is in this case too Somebody more - global Pan-Greek Alpha and Sampi. This fact should be acknowledged by all Christians that uses global Greek Alphabet, because in this case they can diminish God by excluding Him from full range of global Greek Alphabet. Ionians were justified by their unknowledge, and Jesus only adjusted Himself to their lower level of knowledge, calling Himself as local Ionian Beginning and End. Sho was placed between San and Qoppa and was only existing Greek letter not used by Greeks, but by Bactrians that adopted Greek alphabet. 91.94.167.29 18:14, 24 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this serious? What is Sampi?--Xaverius 18:28, 24 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alpha is first letter of extended Greek alphabet with sound value "a" and numerical value 1, while Sampi is last letter of extended Greek alphabet with sound value "s" and numerical value 900. More here. Each Greek letter article provides sound and numerical value. 91.94.167.29 18:42, 24 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Haec omnia et plura legi possunt in pagina Abecedarium Graecum --Fabullus 18:59, 24 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graecus est, non legitur.... --Xaverius 11:58, 25 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What a ridiculous waste of keystrokes in this argument ... arguing over which lettters(!!!) (as if a god worthy his salt gave a thing about earthly abecedaria...) by which god should be represented... letter sampi?! Ugh... --Ioscius (disp) 12:48, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My list serves as compilation of all Greek letters that ever existed. I used Unicode charts as source of this list - only symbols explicitly called letters there are included. Because Greek alphabet is first ever vovel+consonant-featured alphabet, best what can be done is to say, that God is globally Alpha and Sampi, but too locally Α and Ω (Ionian), A and Z (Latin), А and Я (Russian), etc... This explanation is important to both refrain from diminishing God and to regard Bible as truth. 87.96.63.125 13:03, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
While I thank you for compiling the image (which is actually pretty cool), the last two ideas you wrote frankly scare the willies out of me. How on earth is the word of god to be written by men? Men lie all the time... Truth? eehh... --Ioscius (disp) 13:13, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ionian variant is local, but this one compiled by me graphically is global. In this way both statements are true, because designations such as "global" (for Alpha&Sampi) and "local" (for Alpha&Omega) could be simply omitted in texts. God's Catholic revelations (both public and private) are always true and cross-coherent/consistent, but often incomplete - I know that from my reading experience. Please compare for example New Testament and The Poem of the Man-God By Maria Valtorta for example. What is missed in Bible can be present in Poem, and what is missed in Poem, can be present in Bible. 87.96.63.125 13:26, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not edit my comments, nor capitalize my gs.--Ioscius (disp) 13:42, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I did this only to repair your unholy treating of Holy God, but I see that you are very stubborn against God, by restoring your unholiness. This is very sad, especially because our doom and gloom is extremely near: http://www.giftstor.org/tomkiel05fst.html Your constant unholiness in treating God may result in your eternal damnation, thus please repent while you can. 87.96.63.125 14:03, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Our anonymous user should note that "diminishing God" would be an impossible, indeed inconceivable, procedure for us mortals. I'm surprised she even thinks of it. Andrew Dalby 15:07, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I meant virtual (as virtuality) diminishing of God, performed by knowers of full global 32-letter Greek alphabet, by excluding Him from keeping His Holy Rule over Digamma, Stigma, Heta, Jot, San, Sho, Qoppa and Sampi by calling Him only Alpha and Omega = 24 letters = 75% of all existing letters, while God really keeps His Holy Rule over Alpha and Sampi = 32 letters = 100% of all existing letters. Of course God is not possible to real (as reality) diminishing in any way, because He is always constant and unchangeable Infinity. God called Himself Alpha and Omega only for reason of being understood by Ionians that didn't knew missing 8 letters, because their local 24-letter Ionian alphabet beginning with Alpha and ending with Omega was locally perceived as Beginning and End. But our current knowledge about full global Greek alphabet obliges us to call Him Alpha and Sampi to express His Omnipotence without any exclusions. 87.96.63.125 18:18, 19 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is not in the interests of an accurate and reliable encyclopaedia to misquote or change the content of any source we are quoting. Therefore it is not in our interests to rename this page "Alpha et Sampi", or whatever you are proposing. Is that OK?

Identity

This is en:User:Wikinger (also known as en:User:Piast, en:User:CBMIBM) going on his extended Greek alphabet crusade. This has been poorly-recieved at English wikipedia: see en:Talk:Alpha_and_Omega, en:Template talk:Greek alphabet‎, etc. AnonMoos 15:51, 27 Martii 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This user currently is CBMIBM, but permanently abandoned Wikinger name because of Nazi Wiking Jugend connotations. He too permanently abandoned Piast name because of stadion-bandit GKS Piast connotations. 87.96.19.62 18:42, 7 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: an anonymous user removed the last two paragraphs, giving the summary "revert restoring lies and suspections without proofs". Andrew Dalby 12:20, 18 Iunii 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These statements above except this one directly above my current statement, are really lies and suspections without proofs, because I never had account in any Wikipedia. I will remain anonymous, because creating account only to have it banned for nothing is futile. This is my experience from various forums. 207.10.232.238 12:29, 18 Iunii 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you will not be banned here if you present your arguments on talk pages. You could even start a page in the "Vicipaedia:"-namespace for this topic. However, if you want to make a change in the article namespace there has to be consensus. To get consensus, it will help to provide external sources, not just citing other Wikipedias. And to have an account here will also help, at least in communicating with you. --Rolandus

Missing letters

I signalized in template related to Greek Alphabet all missing Greek letters by placing them there. Red links indicate them all. More in: Disputatio:Abecedarium Graecum. 91.94.132.212 17:01, 17 Iunii 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This template is here: Template:Abecedarium Graecum, and missing letters came from Official Unicode site: http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0370.pdf These letters were officially introduced into Unicode. 67.159.47.42 17:20, 17 Iunii 2008 (UTC)[reply]