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Suadeo ut haec commentatio ad libertas credendi moveatur, ut nomen formulae in libertas sentiendi, libertas imprimendi, libertas loquendi, atque libertas philosophandi adhibitae congruat. Mattie (disputatio) 23:55, 16 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sed ut videtur libertas credendi (vel cogitandi) et libertas religionis non sunt eadem res. Ait wikipedia Anglica: "'Freedom of thought' is the precursor and progenitor of—and thus is closely linked to—other liberties: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of expression." (Praeterea, en:Freedom of belief ad en:Freedom of thought dirigitur.) IacobusAmor (disputatio) 01:41, 17 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fontes quos in commentationem inserui plane libertate credendi pro freedom of religion utuntur ('freedom of [religious] belief'). Freedom of thought libertas sentiendi, cogitandi, mentis, aut animi est, ut commentatio illa explicat. Mattie (disputatio) 01:59, 17 Aprilis 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quamquam constantia nominum desideranda est, in libris Google saltem locutio "libertas religionis" (238 paginae) locutionem "libertas credendi" (151 paginas) evincit. Lesgles (disputatio) 22:35, 19 Maii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since they're both well attested, I don't think the exact number of occurrences matters much. Rather, we should choose the name that works best. When I was working on the 'freedom of _____' pages I tried to be consistent by using verbs rather than nouns (after beginning, if memory serves, with Libertas sentiendi and finding mostly attestations of 'sentiendi' rather than 'mentis' or what have you): libertates credendi (of religion), philosophandi (academic freedom), imprimendi (of the press), sentiendi (of thought), loquendi (of speech). Some of these cases were well attested with nouns as well ('libertas preli / imprimendi') but others not. Mattie (disputatio) 21:45, 20 Maii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fontes

From Morgan's (?) old list:

.gvt freedom of religion / libertas cultûs [Donat]; libertas religionis [s.17]; religionum tolerantia [s.17]; libertas exercitii religionis [s.18]; tolerantia religiosa [s.18] (Helf.)

.gvt freedom of speech / libertas sermonis [s.17]; libertas voti [Bauer] (Helf.)

.gvt freedom of the press / libertas quidlibet typis edendi [Vox Lat.]; libertas libraria [Bacci]; libertas preli [Bauer]; tolerantia librorum [s.17]; (Helf.) ]] libertas imprimendi

.gvt freedom of thought / liberta sentiendi (v. cogitandi v. mentis) [s.18] (Helf.)

Vide http://www.wyomingcatholiccollege.com/faculty-pages/patrick-owens/lexicon/silva/index.aspx IacobusAmor (disputatio) 23:40, 20 Maii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::Quamquam constantia nominum desideranda est, in libris Google saltem locutio "libertas religionis" (238 paginae) locutionem "libertas credendi" (151 paginas) evincit. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 22:35, 19 Maii 2016 (UTC)
 ::::Since they're both well attested, I don't think the exact number of occurrences matters much. Rather, we should choose the name that works best. When I was working on the 'freedom of _____' pages I tried to be consistent by using verbs rather than nouns (after beginning, if memory serves, with [[Libertas sentiendi]] and finding mostly attestations of 'sentiendi' rather than 'mentis' or what have you): libertates credendi (of religion), [[libertas philosophandi|philosophandi]] (academic freedom), [[libertas imprimendi|imprimendi]] (of the press), [[libertas sentiendi|sentiendi]] (of thought), [[libertas loquendi|loquendi]] (of speech). Some of these cases were well attested with nouns as well ('libertas preli / imprimendi') but others not. [[Usor:Mattie|Mattie]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mattie|disputatio]]) 21:45, 20 Maii 2016 (UTC)
+==Fontes==
+From Morgan's (?) old list:
+.gvt '''freedom of religion''' / libertas cultûs [Donat]; libertas religionis [s.17]; religionum tolerantia [s.17]; libertas exercitii religionis [s.18]; tolerantia religiosa [s.18] (Helf.)
+.gvt '''freedom of speech''' / libertas sermonis [s.17]; libertas voti [Bauer] (Helf.)
+.gvt '''freedom of the press''' / libertas quidlibet typis edendi [Vox Lat.]; libertas libraria [Bacci]; libertas preli [Bauer]; tolerantia librorum [s.17]; (Helf.) ]] libertas imprimendi
+.gvt '''freedom of thought''' / liberta sentiendi (v. cogitandi v. mentis) [s.18] (Helf.)
+Vide http://www.wyomingcatholiccollege.com/faculty-pages/patrick-owens/lexicon/silva/index.aspx [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:40, 20 Maii 2016 (UTC)