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Emendatio ex 18:00, 12 Ianuarii 2016

Disputationes anteriores hic habes: Tabularium 1, Tabularium 2, Tabularium 3. Andrew Dalby 13:04, 27 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vascus Gama Vasco da Gama

*	fortasse 1469 Sines Lusitaniae
+	24 Decembris 1524 Cochini Indiae

De pagina "Syndrome Moebii"

A while back I made a page called "Syndrome Moebii" for Moebius Syndrome. You later moved the page to "Syndroma Möbius." I understand the change to syndroma, but Moebius is the appropriate Latinization of Möbius, commonly used in Romance languages such as French, Italian, and Spanish.

I'll answer on the article talk page. Andrew Dalby 12:07, 9 Septembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conlationes amissae

Clive Sweeting Andreae Dalby salutem dat gratiasque maximas ob benignitatem in conlationum amissarum suarum titulos restituendo praestitam agit.

Help Requested

Please evaluate the motto I have on my user page. I wish it to be a translation of "Peace, Love, Anarchy, Natural Law, Free Markets". I am fairly certain I have the first four correct; it's only of the fifth one that I have grave uncertainty.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

Sincerely yours,
allixpeeke (disputatio) 06:31, 17 Septembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! allixpeeke (disputatio) 04:04, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

De peripato

Excusatum me habeas quod augendae huius paginae oblitus esse videor. Rogo, ut mihi aucturi eam ad pristinum statum illam revertas. Mea sententia inceptum nostrum eiusmodi commentationem continere oportet cum ad rem maximi historiae philosophicae momenti spectet. Autokrator (disputatio) 19:07, 29 Septembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Recte dicis! Restituo -- Andrew Dalby 19:34, 29 Septembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

De paginis movendis

Ave Andrew. Gratias tibi ago pro notitia tua. --Maria.martelli (disputatio) 18:30, 20 Octobris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dionantum

Gratulor tibi, mi Andrea, nam ut vides paululum nunc conatus sum multo plura de hac urbe addere. Vale optime.--Viator (disputatio) 19:30, 20 Octobris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

pagina Lilih

Salve Andrew. Mihi sunt etiam diffultates hoc systemate uti! Ad paginam Lilith quae scripsi nuper fontes adiugi. Nunc meliorem esse spero. Quo plus paginarum composuero, eo capaciter sytaxin et regulae huisce systematis intellegam! Spero quidem... :-) Vale, Limarius (disputatio) 15:49, 8 Novembris 2014 (UTC)Limarius[reply]

Lia Quartapelle

Feci, vale! Rei Momo (disputatio) 22:08, 18 Novembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

source

http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/user_talk:Hindustanilanguage/Archive_1#Proto-Indo-European_Dictionary

DEATH TO POST-BABEL LIES

Proto Indo European Dictionary:

69.41.173.145 08:08, 11 मई 2013‎.

Anna Katharina Emmerick: EMMERICK VISIONEN

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…Es ist dies die hebräische oder chaldäische reine Sprache.

Die erste Muttersprache, welche Adam, Sem, Noe redeten, ist eine andere und ist nur noch in einzelnen Mundarten vorhanden. Ihre ersten reinen Töchter sind die Sprache der Baktrier, der Zend und die heilige Sprache der Indier. In diesen Sprachen sind noch Wörter ganz wie in dem tiefen Plattdeutsch meiner Heimat. In dieser Sprache ist auch das Buch geschrieben, das ich im heutigen Ktesiphon am Tigris liegen sehe.

Heber lebte noch zu der Zeit der Semiramis. …

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…This language was the pure Hebrew, or Chaldaic.

The first tongue, the mother tongue, spoken by Adam, Shem, and Noah, was different, and it is now extant only in isolated dialects. Its first pure offshoots are the Zend, the sacred tongue of India, and the language of the Bactrians. In those languages, words may be found exactly similar to the Low German of my native place. The book that I see in modern Ctesiphon, on the Tigris, is written in that language.

Heber was still living at the time of Semiramis. …

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Indogermanisch=Muttersprache

__Indisch

____Neuindische Mundarten

______Hindi=Indier

__Iranisch

____Pamiri und Mundarten

______Bakhi=Baktrier

______Šugni=Zend

__Germanisch

____Niederdeutsch und verwandte Sprachen

______Altniederdeutsch=Plattdeutsch

188.227.187.228 (वार्ता) 09:00, 11 मई 2013 (UTC)

What do you want by way of mentioning this on Hindi Wikipedia forums? Hindustanilanguage (वार्ता) 10:08, 11 मई 2013 (UTC).

I want to terminate post-Babel course of unreligion, unhistory, unlanguage and unnationality plaguing whole humanity since Tower of Babel once and for all. This will free humanity from its orwellian newspeak misfortune existing since thousands of years. In this way, whole humanity will be reenabled to return to its nominal way, truth and life. 69.41.173.145 (वार्ता) 10:37, 11 मई 2013 (UTC)

This may be a good idea, and thank you for the links above. There are many possible methods of spreading this information via the Internet, but Wikipedia is not a good choice: it will not be able to help you very much (I think you already know this really). All the Wikipedias are based on verifiable information in reliable sources. Information that you add is pretty sure to be deleted unless it is already published in sources that other Wikipedians judge to be reliable. Andrew Dalby 16:02, 19 Novembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Villa Culturae aut Villa Culturae ?

Ave, Andrea. Anceps toponymum istud est, aut Villa nom. s. et Culturae gen. pl. aut Villa nom. s. et Cultura nom. pl. Quia in fontibus Latine invenitur "apud Villam Culturas", mihi videtur Villa acc. s. et Cultura acc. pl. agitur, inde sequitur, nisi fallor, quod utraque nomines substantiva feminina sunt quae sui quoque genitivo Villae Culturarum reddunt. Eo modo Petrus Ronsardus Villá Culturis natus est. Vale. --Leonellus Pons (disputatio) 13:25, 22 Novembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Optime, mi Leonelle. Nomen mihi admodum insolitum videtur, sed e fonte a te citato recte locativum "Villá Culturis" derivavisti. Da veniam propter dubia mea! Andrew Dalby 13:55, 22 Novembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Secundum fontem citatum, Bovani villa = la villa de Boinville: "Habet in Bovani villa culturas III"; quod fortasse = "Habet ibi culturas tres." Quid significat hoc verbum cultura, cuius sunt tres? Ager cultus? ¶ Fortasse Boinville non est Couture-sur-Loir, et haec citatio ergo nil ad rem pertinet. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:10, 22 Novembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In "Polyptyque de l'Abbé Irminon" p.227 fontem citatum legere possumus "Habet in Bovani villa culturas III habentes bunuaria XXVIII..." quod mihi sonat "Habet in Bovani villa tres agros cultos (culturas) qui mensi sunt XXVIII bunuariorum (Francogallice bonier quid agrorum mensio est iugerum aripennumque non absimilis) et qui possunt seminari de modiis frumenti C".--Leonellus Pons (disputatio) 15:07, 22 Novembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[1]

Ave! Gratias tibi ago, Andrew, ob tuum auxilium et consilium. Discipuli est discere. Meum est discere. Vale! :) -- Knixnik (disputatio) 22:57, dies Mercurii, 26. Novembris 2014. (MMXIV) (CET)

Movere Categorias

Salve Andrew, gratissimus tibi suum, quia passus meos in territorio novo inspicis et corrigis. Heri mihi scripsisti, qualis sit optima versio theodisci nominis "Wilhelm" philosophi "Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel" in Latinum. Tibi consentior et nomen in pagina sicut et nomen paginae ipsius de novo mutavi. Sed mutatio categoriae eiusdem tituli mihi non contigit, quamquam me de modo hic faciendi certiorem fecisti. Potes tu hanc categoriam adaptare aut me adaptationem subtilius docere? Te de Bavaria tota alba laete saluto Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 14:22, 31 Decembris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I thank you for your welcome back. I will sure have less time than in the past but I hope I can again work with youHelveticus montanus (disputatio) 20:59, 4 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dioecesis Tonganus

Salve, carissime Andreas, quomodo te habes? HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Haec pagina nuc creavi, et tibi peto parvam relecturam quia categoriae non adsunt, et deinde rubeae sunt. Tibi gratias ago!

Rei Momo (disputatio) 13:34, 7 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank youuuuu !!! Rei Momo (disputatio) 13:51, 7 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Feci!!! Proximus die 24 Ianuarii Inter Amnis ibo. Estne domus tua in haec regione? Rei Momo (disputatio) 14:14, 7 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Locum pulchrum olim visitavi! Sed satis longe a me distat, Rei Momo. I feliciter Andrew Dalby 15:03, 17 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Categoria paginarum Latinarum!

Salve Andrea! In commentatione Lex Salica creanda categoriae:Articles containing Latin language text apparuerunt - unde? quomodo deleri possunt?--Utilo (disputatio) 14:38, 17 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Removi, mi amice -- categoriam haud utilem postulavit Formula:Lang -- sed an aliquid malum in aliis paginis effeci, haud iam scio ... :) Andrew Dalby 15:03, 17 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

removisti, gratias tibi ago, sed quo modo? Si fontem ad recensendum aperio, hanc categoriam ne videre quidem possum!?!--Utilo (disputatio) 15:58, 17 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Recte dicis. Quando fontem aperuisti, videbis ad pedem paginae "Formulae in hac pagina adhibitae" (vel sim.) cum nominibus aliquibus quae in fenestra editionis minime videntur: formulae enim alias formulas postulare possunt! Res haud facilis est, sed possumus, ea formularum enumeratione perlecta, formulas suspectissimas ad recensendum aperire et (si fortuna subrideat) rem molestam reperire et corrigere. Id feci ... Andrew Dalby 16:42, 17 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nunc intellego! Numquam pedem paginae accuratius aspexi.--Utilo (disputatio) 17:50, 17 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

en:Do not buy Russian goods!

Hello! Could you translate an article about boycott of Russian goods in Ukraine for the Latin and Italian Wikipedia? Thanks for the help.--Trydence (disputatio) 21:45, 22 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't know Italian. As to Latin, I suggest you ask at the Vicipaedia:Taberna. Andrew Dalby 10:01, 23 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks--Trydence (disputatio) 22:20, 25 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De attibutione

Ave Andrew. Gratias tibi ago pro notitia tua. --Maria.martelli (disputatio) 18:59, 27 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alerts

Salve Andrea! Gratias tibi ago propter comes "alerts" tuos (-as?). Tamen nescio, quomodo fiant; vixdum lecti - mirabile visu - evolant e conspectu!--Utilo (disputatio) 17:25, 28 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Andrew,

These new pages were created by me a lot of time ago, I have kept the files on my PC. Now I am inserting slowly all them on vicipaedia. I will update them eliminating PND if not of interest. Also here is cold. have a nice dayHelveticus montanus (disputatio) 14:20, 29 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How may pages? Not a lot. I used the most of these preprepared pages when we were near the target of 100'000 pages.--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 15:19, 29 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rogatiuncula

Andrew, translating from other Wikipedias is generally not to my likings, and therefore I haven't taken much interest in the translation discussion. For the article on dilemma captivi, however, I snatched the table from fi:Vangin dilemma, making a few cosmetic changes in it. Except for the sketch of the table, "dilemma captivi" is entirely based on external sources. Now, if I need to give credits to the source of the table, could you please indicate how to do that. I'm afraid I haven't got the σπλάγχνα to read through a long discussion replete with Administrese (of which I've got an overdose in the university). Vale, Martinus a.k.a. Neander (disputatio) 13:15, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did it for you -- it was the work of a moment. I created a disputatio page for your article and put the formula in there as you will see.

I don't do much direct translation either, but I guess it is a good habit to acknowledge the source when we do :) Andrew Dalby 13:26, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Andrew, but the thing is that I have not translated the article (not an iota of it) from the Finnish wikipedia, but only snatced the sketch of the table from it. Neander (disputatio) 13:27, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see, I'm so sorry, I was in the middle of John Singer Sargent's Le Verre de porto and I didn't read your message with sufficient care. We can add to that formula the optional indication "partim". If you're happy with that, please take it that it will be done (Maria Martelli had already observed that this would be a good option). But if one wanted to give a more detailed and specific acknowledgment, one would simply have to write it out in real language on the talk page. We're getting towards the lower limits of what's necessary. If in an academic article you would have acknowledged the fact that some previous author gave you the makings of a diagram or table, then it's sensible to acknowledge it here too. If it's too minor for that, then no need to do it. Andrew Dalby 13:41, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for the backgounding! Yes, I now think a more specific — if any at all — acknowledgment is in order in ths case. Therefore, I decided to delete the discussion page and added an acknowledgment as a note to the table. Thanks for letting me to use you as an arbiter elegantiarum! Neander (disputatio) 16:35, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Capsa hominis Vicidata

You are doing a very nice job with Capsa hominis Vicidata. Ciao--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 18:08, 15 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rogationes in taberna a Bis-Taurino scriptae

Salve Andrea, gratias iterum tibi dico ob responsum tuum in taberna datum. Nonne potes, si tibi manet tempus, fortasse et responsum dare ad problemata a me in capitulo 44 tabernae nominata? Sed res non urget. Semper gratus Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 00:11, 17 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pages of January 28-29, 2015

Dear Andrew, yes these pages were prepared a lot of time ago. I thank you for your help in correcting them--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 18:41, 20 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage deletion

Hello. Could you please delete my userpage (for global user page's display)? Thanks. Hausratte (disputatio) 09:44, 21 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Andrew Dalby 15:41, 21 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Salve!

Salutem tibi do. Anglicene dicere gratum est? I hope this is the proper way to contact you; my apologies if it's not.

My apologies also for not contacting you sooner. I believe Ryan McGrady may have told you about me and my students; we're looking at Vicipaedia as part of our advanced Latin course on Lucretius this semester. As part of that course we plan on revising the Lucretius article. That will be later on, of course, once we've gotten some practice in. As I'm sure you've noticed, we've started with some basic work on the pages for Spokane and Gonzaga University. It's a small class; just five students. You can see them all on the Historia of the Spokane page. The students have really enjoyed learning the basics of editing, linking, and creating pages. They've also been very impressed at how quickly members of the Vicipaedia community have contributed to the work.

I just wanted to formally introduce myself. Ryan said you might be willing to help us out with our project. That's very kind of you and we would be most grateful.

All the best,

Dave Oosterhuis Dr Ostorius (disputatio) 01:15, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it's you, Dr Ostorius! And it's the Spokane people! That's very good. I was afraid the students mentioned by Ryan would turn out to be another group, who appeared about the same time, whose contributions were much more difficult to improve. You are all welcome to continue to ask questions here (or at the talk pages of the articles you are working on). I am travelling for the next 2 days and am not on line so much, but others will of course help too. I am sure Lucretius will repay your attentions when you get to him. You probably already know this, but if you happen to start any new pages you need to save them from being classed "Non stipula" so as not to waste your work: you can check the minimum requirements for a page by looking at Formula:Non stipula. Half-done pages can be marked by authors with Formula:In progressu (which asks for patience) or Formula:Succurre (which invites help). Andrew Dalby 11:43, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! That's very helpful. Safe travels! Dr Ostorius (disputatio) 16:04, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Communia Francica

Dear Andrew,

if you explain me:

1) why had all wikipedias used in the past (but also now) the pages on the French Communes to enhance their quantity of artcles. The most of these wikis have shorter and worse articles than the ones I created; 2) are you sure that in the future with bots we could not add new external sources or change the pages of the no more existing communes (other wikis has pages on old communes)? 3) if nobody adds new articles, how can we increase these Wikipedia (last week I was practily one of the few who created new articles); 4) I would do with pleasure other less dull and boring work therefore I will stop here with la.wikipedia.org.

Best regards

Massimo--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 10:36, 2 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't want you to stop, Massimo! I will answer on your talk page. Andrew Dalby 12:23, 2 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Andrew, in any case I was already doing a remaking work on old communia pages e.g the oldest ones Index communium praefecturae Indis(now I am at letter G), and those of Corsica. Now I will try to be more careful and add more external links and especially those links which will not be delated also in the case the commune will be united with an other one Ciao--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 10:08, 3 Martii 2015 (UTC) Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 10:08, 3 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Quaestio tironis

Salve! Vidi recensionem tuam, non usurus formulam "attributio" sum? Hi! I've seen you edit, shouldn't I use "Attributio" template? Thanks for answer!--Toadino2日本 Velisne theamfungi sapore? 18:52, 6 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well, thanks :) I'm going to replace each template then. --Toadino2日本 Velisne theamfungi sapore? 18:58, 6 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I used your text ;)

Ha! Thanks for the attribution :) Andrew Dalby 19:04, 6 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Monumentum

I thnak you for your kind words. I'm a little worried about the monument. In Italain we say tocchiamo ferro (touch iron). Ciao--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 15:44, 10 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Besoin d'aide

Bonjour Andrew Dalby, J'ai mis un bandeau de suppression sur ma page utilisateur, puisque le contenu sera repris avec celui de ma page utilisateur de Meta. Merci pour votre aide, cordialement. Argosy (disputatio) 01:25, 15 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, supprimée. Andrew Dalby 09:44, 15 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arsenius Boca

Salve, carissime Andreas, quomodo te habes?

I opened this page, but in Wikidata it looks 29 September and 29 October, because in Russian page there's 29 October, may be for Orthodox Calendar?

Thanks a lot for your precious help!

Rei Momo (disputatio) 09:34, 20 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Rex. First, there is no need to worry. Wikidata is based on all the Wikipedias, and sometimes shows differences or inconsistencies because of that. You need not change your information simply because of Wikidata. You can let it pass.

But if you want to find out why Wikidata has two dates, you can look at the Wikidata page (click on the word "Vicidata" in the box): perhaps it is different calendars; perhaps some Wikipedias have written a different date, and they may be right or wrong! It seems, from what you say, that this is the case here. So you can look further, if you want to, to see whether the Russian Wikipedia cites a source for the date or has a footnote about it. This might lead you to decide that the other date is more accurate: then you can change your text, and cite the source. Andrew Dalby 09:51, 20 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot, this week end I'll look something to put the sources. Rei Momo (disputatio) 12:08, 20 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It can't be the different calendars; since 1900, the Julian and Gregorian calendars have only been 13 days apart. This site looks somewhat official, and gives 29 September, but there may be an even better source somewhere. Lesgles (disputatio) 18:46, 20 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Scusa

Prima di dire che c'è una edit war, ti prego di prendere in considerazione che non sto facendo vandalismo... forse avrò messo solamente delle fonti in maniera sbagliata. Ma se Lei è più intelligente e più colto, me lo dica. Perché con me non ci casca. Arrivederla. Sacreum (disputatio) 14:14, 25 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for writing. I understand, there is no suggestion of vandalism. And I'm sure I am not more intelligent!

When I think of moving a page, I try to consider alternatives (not just one name, and not just one source). The purpose is to choose the best name. It often helps to discuss the choice with other editors.

But if we have no Latin name (as with many French communes) it is always very good to find a Latin name and to move to it. Thank you for doing this! There is no perfect source, but Graesse is a very good source, and your work is really useful. Andrew Dalby 14:24, 25 Martii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Manum tuam peto

Post tres menses, per quos ad Vicipaediam Latinam contribuere conatus sum, paginam mei usoris "creare" volerem. Multi usores in paginas suas capsam Babel ponunt. Me dolet, ut nusquam explicationem ad faciendam illam capsam invenio. Potesne me adiuvare?

Praeterea iam diu in taverna sub capitulo 44 quaestiones ad diputandum spripsi. Nemo respondit. Credo, quod tu opininionem huc pertinentem habes. Gratus tuus Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 18:38, 28 Martii 2015 (UTC) (qui nolit diutius ruber scribi).[reply]

Request for help

Ave, Andrew. I think you know that I understand far more Latin than I can write. So I wonder if you wouldn't mind giving me an idea of how to translate this user box that I use on several of my home pages. (The "his/her" parses out by means of the #gender parser variable.) Thank you! StevenJ81 (disputatio) 04:51, 2 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Steven. Nice to hear from you. I'll have a look later today. Andrew Dalby 08:24, 2 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disputatio_Usoris:Andrew_Dalby/Bok

Freedom of editing - why edits are bananized despite of "libera encyclopaedia" slogan?

Edits have to be encyclopedic -- to contribute usefully to the encyclopedia. Andrew Dalby 19:23, 14 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De Mabelina

Ave Andrew! Bonum auxilium et consilium. Vale et gratias tibi ago. M Mabelina (disputatio) 12:12, 19 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Christoph Schnitzler

Dear Friend, Please help creation this article in your Language and start this article. Thank you very much.

Translating the interface in your language, we need your help

Hello Andrew Dalby, thanks for working on this wiki in your language. We updated the list of priority translations and I write you to let you know. The language used by this wiki (or by you in your preferences) needs about 100 translations or less in the priority list. You're almost done!

Please register on translatewiki.net if you didn't yet and then help complete priority translations (make sure to select your language in the language selector). With a couple hours' work or less, you can make sure that nearly all visitors see the wiki interface fully translated. Nemo 14:06, 26 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Abecedaria Georgiana

Thank you very much for your help and your explanations--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 04:24, 6 Maii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vicidata

Ciao Andrew, how are you? The data in vicidata about Sancto Bernardo Menthonensi are completely wrong, how do you correct them?--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 16:02, 8 Maii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This can often happen, because the Wikipedias do not always agree. In this case, the dates on Wikidata are taken from the Russian Wikipedia, and what sources they used I don't know.

It is not essential to correct it -- it may sometimes help the reader to know that there are different opinions. But if we want to correct it, we can.

The first step is to add the correct data. This is how to add a correct date of birth, for example:

Go to the Wikidata page. Make sure your language is "Latina" -- you choose your language at the top of the window. Then, in the section "Statements", scroll down to the word "Natus". You see the false entry "923". Below, on the right, you have the option "addere". Click it, and type in the box the correct date "1020". Then click "save".

The result of this will be that our Vicidata box will now display two dates, "923; 1020".

The second step, if you choose to do this, is to delete the incorrect information. Beside the entry "natus" ... "923" click on "recensere". Then click on "remove". Then click "save".

Try it, Massimo, and see if it works! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:08, 8 Maii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Animadverterunt

Animadverterunt administratores quemdam 86.67.199.92 et eius opera hodie? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:03, 12 Maii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gratias tibi ago. Recte anonymus Anglicitatem nostram reprehendit, sed medicinam malam applicat. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:54, 12 Maii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Crimes of the Heart

Vale, carissime Andreas, quomodo te habes?

Tibi peto parvam relecturam huius paginae quae nunc feci. My Latin isn't so good as your, please, can you help me? Tibi gratias ago!

Rei Momo (disputatio) 07:54, 25 Maii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Guadalupe

I thank you for pointing that out I'll correct it in the next days. Ciao--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 16:38, 31 Maii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De scriptoribus

Gratias tibi infinitas ago, mi Andrea, pro perspicua explanatione de usu Vicipaediae latinae quoad categorias de auctoribus pertinentes. Vale perquam optime.--Viator (disputatio) 17:20, 3 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Usor:Sacreum

Vale Andrea! I wanted to inform you about this fact. The user Sacreum on Provincia Cremonensis is doing lot of confusion: in particulary he deletes much of my work and he makes many mistakes; often not getting their sources. It should be stopped.--Nuada (disputatio) 10:28, 8 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message, Nuada. I have noticed that there is much activity at Provincia Cremonensis. I suggest that you first discuss the problems with Sacreum directly at Disputatio Usoris:Sacreum. If Sacreum replies, we will see whether agreement is possible. If Sacreum does not reply, and continues to delete good information or to add incorrect information, we can take other action. I will watch the page.

It is probably best for you to write to Sacreum in Italian. My impression (possibly mistaken) is that Sacreum does not understand English or Latin well. If you write in Italian, I will watch the conversation. If necessary I or another magistratus (perhaps Helveticus?) will be able to add a comment. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:02, 8 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sono mesi che qualcuno mi controlla quello che faccio, non capisco in cosa sbaglio! Molte volte ho corretto addirittura le J. Ripeto molto volte ci sono link sul Graesse che poi non esistono (le ho controllate più volte) quindi non sono io quello che fa errori, non sarò perfetto avrò fatto confusione a volte. Ma appena scrivo, c'è qualcuno che poi deve controllare quello che faccio. Ma diamine... Sacreum (disputatio) 16:33, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked Nuada to comment. But it is normal for other Vicipaedians to observe your work and it may sometimes happen that others disagree with your decisions. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:48, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nuces (Noci) è plurale di Nux (Nuces-um) Nucum è errato... Non capisco perché viene messo Nucum (al genitivo) anche il libro dov'è citato mette il genitivo. Poi sono io quello che polemizza Sacreum (disputatio) 11:47, 11 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De capsa hominis quaestio

Salve, Andrea! Gratias ago quam maximas pro categoriis, quas commentationi Miles Davis addidisti. Etiam capsa hominis mihi placet, sed hoc velim quaerere, num capsa illa ad dextram partem paginae poni possit. Potesne capsam ita mutare, ut alterautra positione uti liceat? Neander (disputatio) 07:43, 9 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Salve et tu, Neander! Locum sinistrum nactus sum ne imagines, quae iam in permultis paginis brevissimis ad dextram partem positae sunt, inutiliter submitterentur. Si pagina iam eandem imaginem continet, quattuor solutiones iam habemus et saepe applicamus:

Imaginem iam positam in pagina retinere, rebus valde utilibus in rubricam additis (si imago bona est, id facere soleo)
Imaginem aliam apud Vicidata promovere (id quod rarius facio)
Imaginem delere (id quod tu fecisti) ...
Capsam delere (est enim "facultativa")
Ita, pro certo, possibile erit locum capsae variabilem reddere. Quomodo (admitto) hoc tempore nescio. In re capsarum faciendarum, etsi tu non es Cicero, ego sum Tiro. Conabor ... sed fortasse solutiones 1 et 2, mihi simpliciores, antea temptabo (scaevola enim sum, censeoque te minime partem paginae sinistram, sed coniunctionem imaginum similium arcere). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:15, 9 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Solutiones 1 et 2 applicavi. Potes imagines movere sicut vis! Sed si non placet, dic mihi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:42, 9 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Iterum gratias tibi ago pro solutionibus propositis! Imaginem ad dextram positam abstuli non solum ob similitudinem sed etiam ideo, quod duae imagines parallelae mea quidem opinione nimis artum spatium ipsi textui relinquunt (non enim maximo spatio monitorii uti soleo). Imaginum mutationes quas fecisti ad tempus conservabo. Ubi primum in textu evolvendo ad annos 1950 pervenero, imaginem ad annum 1955 pertinentem deorsum in loco apto ponam; quo facto imaginem in initio positam in loco liberato ponam. In capsis faciendis si tu Tiro, ego Tirunculus. :-) Neander (disputatio) 20:11, 9 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bene! Conabor igitur ... sed licet capsam delere si molestum esse videtur. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:35, 9 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De hac re plura cogitans, locum capsae mutare hoc tempore abstinere volo. Rationem aliam huius formae et huius loci, supra omissam, nunc addo. Haec capsa res continet ex alio datorum thesauro illatas, Vicipaediae certe socio et amico, sed verificationi nostrae non subiecto. Locum igitur, ubi nos rarissime capsas imaginesque a nobismet ipsis verificatas et rubricatas monstramus, gratissimum censui. Eadem ratione formam capsae ab omnibus aliis differentem, umbrá cyaneá e paginis nostris distinctam et prominentem, praetuli.

Capsas huius formae creavi praecipue quia lectoribus haud paucis utiles esse possunt, sed etiam quia multae paginae Vicipaedianae capsis male constructis atque embryonicis farciuntur, pulchritudinem et utilitatem Vicipaediae nostrae (mea mente) nocentes laboremque infinitum, operariis carentibus, silenter postulantes. Hoc modo igitur duabus necessitatibus labore minimo respondere coepi. Sed ad tertiam necessitatem, q.e. tuam, non respondi. Mi paenitet! Rursus te suadeo: capsam simpliciter remove si vis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:35, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maximam gratiam habeo, Andrea, quod tantam complendae voluntati meae operam dedisti. Capsae antea mihi displicuerunt, quod duplices nuntios acervant atque interdum lineas textús nimis coartant (mihi saltem qui latissimo visu uti non soleo). Sed capsam hominis paulum deorsum movi inque initio posui eandem imaginem, quam tu antea, et denique novam eiusdem aetatis imaginem addidi loco ita liberato. Nunc puto capsam illam utiliter exhiberi. Neander (disputatio) 09:06, 11 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Andrew

Hello Andrew, can you please translate this from Latin into English? I need to understand what does it say and maybe you could help? Here it is:

"Fragmentum ad Antonini Pii tempora pertinere recte collegit Nesselhauf cum e lapidis natura tum e nominibus Fabiani consulis et Pharasmanis Iberorum regis. Si anni aetatis illius, e quibus ultimum par coiisulum notum est, aeque atque anni in fastos Ostienses relati excluduntur, non restat, nisi ut de annis 141 — 144, 149 — 150, 157 — 159 cogitemus, Heriberto Nesselhauf auctore de annis 141 — 144 potissimum, nam Pharasmanes primis Antonini Pii annis potius quam posterioribus Romam venit. Si Fabianus, ut editor proposait, re vera idem est ac L. Annius Fabianus tituli CIL III 7972 (Groag, PIR2 A 643), praeses praetorius Daciae inter annos 135 — 157 (sic Stein, Dazien, p. 26)."

Thanks again. Jaqeli (disputatio) 11:27, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Try this :) "Herbert Nesselhauf rightly gathered, from the nature of the stone combined with the names of the consul Fabianus and of the Iberian king Pharasmanes, that the fragment belongs to the times of Antoninus Pius. If the years of Antoninus' age, of which the last pair of consuls is known, along with the years listed in the en:Fasti Ostienses, are excluded, we must think only of the years 141 — 144, 149 — 150, 157 — 159, and according to Nesselhauf principally 141 - 144, because Pharasmanes came to Rome in the early years of Antoninus, not the later years. If Fabianus, as the editor proposed, is indeed the same as the L. Annius Fabianus of the inscription CIL III 7972 (Groag, PIR2 A 643), who was praetorian praeses of Dacia between the years 135 — 157 (as stated by Stein, Dazien, p. 26) ..." This last sentence is incomplete. Either because I don't know enough of the context, or because I'm not clever enough, I don't understand the logic of the passage I have underlined: perhaps someone else will see this and be able to improve my translation at that point (or indeed elsewhere). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:14, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"If the years of Antoninus's reign . . ."? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 13:28, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, possibly, and thanks for trying to help, but I still don't understand the logic :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:56, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Calendarium Hebraicum

Hi, Andrew. I'm currently translating a template I've written for several other wikis (mainly just because). I've got it most of the way there; see Disputatio usoris:StevenJ81#Calendarium Hebraicum. (I had originally considered also adding the Roman calendar nomenclature, but until/unless I work on a separate template for that purpose I'm not doing it here and now.)

With respect to the Hebrew months: If you look just above the draft template, you'll see the names of the Hebrew months as the parser function spits them out here. They appear to correspond to common English spelling, and do not have separate genitive forms on this wiki. (They do on others, like hewiki, for example; I think it depends whether something has been programmed in.) Separately, the months are named at Calendarium Hebraicum, with different spelling. So here are my questions:

Is the spelling at Calendarium Hebraicum reliable/authoritative for Hebrew months in Latin?
Would one typically decline them? If so, can you help me with genitives for them? ("Sivan" would need to be in genitive just as much as "Iunius" does.)

Thank you! StevenJ81 (disputatio) 00:22, 11 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Steven. The first answer is easy: one treats such foreign words as indeclinable. The Latin eye, seeing "XI Iunii" below and a parallel locution above, would understand that "Sivan" is in the genitive case. No problem there.

The person to tell us how best to spell the Hebrew names from the Latin point of view is Usor:Iustinus. Well, he is the chief contributor at Calendarium Hebraicum and if you look at the page history you see some of his reasoning. I would rely on that page since he produced it, and, if you have questions, it's best to ask him directly :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:01, 11 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks. I'll ask him directly. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 13:40, 11 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up

Still working on this at my user talk page. Thanks. Here's a heads-up/question, though. Once we've settled on a schema for the months, I have two choices of how to proceed. I could create an "inner" template that simply converts the months as the server spits them out into months as we've decided to transliterate them here. Alternatively, since the server isn't really putting out a Latin version of the months anyway, we could try to program the interface to do that. It is a localization that the MediaWiki software is built to take routinely, though: the month Tamuz (in English, and as this wiki also currently names it) comes out as תמוז in the Hebrew and Yiddish wikis, Tamouz on frwiki, and so forth. Can you do that as an administrator? Do I have to put in a request at whatever they're calling bugzilla now? Does it require a formal community consensus? I don't want to make you or anyone else go through a lot of work, but if it's easy and straightforward to do, it would be a better way to go, IMO. Just curious what you know/think. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 16:20, 14 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and there are some other variables that it would be at least equally desirable for the server to convert to Latin (for example, the dates of birth "7. century" etc. (wrong in every language) that come across to us from Wikidata). My knowledge in this area is small to vanishing. We might ask UV, and he might look in here anyway. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:01, 14 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

While it would be possible for a Vicipaedia admin to configure the Hebrew month names for la.wikipedia only, the better choice would be to add the translations to translatewiki: so that not only la.wikipedia will (automatically) use them, but other projects as well. You yourself can register at translatewiki: and add the translations once we have reached an (informal) consensus here. Here is the list of Latin translations for you to change:

Greetings, --UV (disputatio) 19:00, 14 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @UV. I registered at translatewiki and got cleared over the weekend. I put in one of these as a test edit (m11 nominative to "Ab," since I didn't think that was actually controversial) to see how it works. If everything works ok with that, I'll fill in the rest once we come to an agreement elsewhere about a consensus. (@Iustinius agrees that these are considered invariable nouns, so nominative and genitive versions will be identical.) Will keep you both posted, too. (Once this stuff is cleaned up, I can start helping you figure out how to do some of these other things, too, Andrew.) StevenJ81 (disputatio) 13:44, 15 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Test successful, Andrew and @UV. If you look at Disputatio usoris:StevenJ81#Calendarium Hebraicum, you'll see that one of the months is now rendered "Ab" by the server, because I edited it at translatewiki per the above. At this point I will start updating the six of the twelve Hebrew month names for which there appears to be no question or dispute (see at Disputatio usoris:StevenJ81#Calendarium Hebraicum II, while awaiting consensus on the rest. (Your contributions would be welcome; I'm especially keen to get a read from you on the "u"/"v" dichotomy in three of the names.)

Separately, if you can start describing other things you'd like me to try to look at fixing from translatewiki, I'll try. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 12:59, 17 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing questions

Hi, Andrew. I closed the discussion on my talk page. The last transliterations are being processed in translatewiki, and should be here in a few days. So I have two remaining questions, mainly because I haven't studied enough Latin to really understand subtleties of declension:

Translatewiki had a phrase it was requesting translation of: "Name of month in Hebrew calendar." Name is nominative (no pun intended), and month is genitive. But are the others genitive or ablative?
What should I call my template when I publish it? I was thinking "Dies Hebraicus," but do I have that right?

After this, I'll leave you alone for a while. (Separately, I am trying to work with UV and Wikidata on the other problem.) But thanks very much for your help! StevenJ81 (disputatio) 13:47, 23 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Genitive or ablative, you could look at it either way. They are months of the Hebrew calendar, or they are names by, with or in the Hebrew calendar. I'd go for the genitive, but I bet the next speaker will differ.

"Dies Hebraicus" seems OK to me; or plural, "Dies Hebraici". All of the above assumes that you are happy with the term "Hebraicus". I think of it rather as the Jewish calendar, hence "Iudaicus", but you'll know better on this. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:56, 23 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll go for singular, because the template shows you today's date only (on both calendars). So it represents only one day. Hebraicus/Iudaicus: Good question. I've always called it "Hebrew calendar" myself, and that tends to be the name I hear in English, though not exclusively. Beyond that, a quick survey of Wikipedias shows that German-derived languages (including Yiddish) use something related to Jewish, while Latin-derived languages (including Djudeo-Espanyol), as well as Hebrew, use something related to Hebrew. (The above is probably why English is a mixed bag ...) So I'm going to stick with "Hebraicus" for now. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 15:41, 23 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks again for all your help. (Would you mind checking if I wrote the one bit of documentation correctly?) StevenJ81 (disputatio) 14:50, 24 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Update

We have had some luck on the "century" issue: See d:Wikidata:Contact the development team#Century dating—localization and phabricator:T104447. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 20:46, 1 Iulii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

American comic actors

Hi, how are you?

It's not a problem, I'll check these pages more carefully. This user adds a page a day isn't a big work. Ciao --Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 05:29, 14 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Gli angeli di Borsellino

Vale, carissime Andreas, quomodo te habes?

Parvam relecturam feci, set tibi peto magnum adiutum relecturae argumenti. Please, can you? Thanks a lot for your precious help!

Rei Momo (disputatio) 14:18, 19 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Noster Wikiamicus Viator relecturam argumenti fecit! Vale. Rei Momo (disputatio) 12:46, 20 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but is it possible to take off, now, the latinitas -3? Please... :-) Rei Momo (disputatio) 18:02, 20 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take it off now. But another time, Rex, you or Viator can take it off! It doesn't have to be me! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:05, 20 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suuuuuure, carissime amice, I was thinking that in Ltin Wikipedia it had to take off from the samw Wikipedian who put! Thnaks a lot and see you soon!!! Rei Momo (disputatio) 18:32, 20 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: Sorry, no more Rex or Rei :-) I like more Momo Thank youuuu!!! Rei Momo (disputatio) 18:34, 20 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Dear Andrew, I thank you for your correction. I have already changed the wrong categoriesHelveticus montanus (disputatio) 09:13, 21 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Block User

Hi Andrew, can you block this user? thanks in advance.--Syum90 (disputatio) 17:49, 22 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The same vandal, I think: CopiaVia.--Syum90 (disputatio) 17:57, 22 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think so too. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:58, 22 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Future

I've the German ones in store :-)--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 03:53, 24 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pietralata

Vale, carissime Adreas, quomodo te habes?

Tibi huius novae pagine parvam relecturam peto, quia iam scis meam latinitatem non magnam esse! Tibi magna gratias ago!

Rei Momo (disputatio) 23:27, 26 Iunii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal

Hi, please block this ip. Matiia (disputatio) 22:27, 21 Iulii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't around at that time. Blocked now: thanks for your work meanwhile.

At that time of day you might try Lesgles: he was around in fact, but evidently not watching the recent changes. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:04, 22 Iulii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed! Lesgles (disputatio) 16:36, 22 Iulii 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CUM

I do not know I took the reference as written on the page of the list of the departments communes. Ciao Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 11:48, 6 Augusti 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- here too very hot. After the warmest month in Lugano's climatic history (July 2015 mean temeprature:25.8°) now again 33° today

120'000

We all deserved to be thanked. Concerning me I hope only I have also in the future enough time to partecipate to this project. Have a nice day! Ciao--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 12:28, 10 Augusti 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As we say in the Latin dialect of my people, Mazal Tov! StevenJ81 (disputatio) 13:57, 10 Augusti 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De arte celandi

Andrea, hodie usor quidam nomine celato nuntiolum ad meam disputationis paginam scripsit Suecice inscriptum "Julgubben" ('father Christmas'), quem ilico delevit. Quid scripserit, parum mea interest, sed scisne, quo modo nomina celari possint. Mihi quidem haec celandi ars plane ignota est. Neander (disputatio) 15:12, 5 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mihi quoque! IacobusAmor (disputatio) 15:51, 5 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pro certo habeatis vandalum aliquem, nomine usoris inurbano, res malas in varias Vicipaedias inseruisse; quas statim delevit nomenque infandum celavit unus magistratuum semidivinorum qui de talibus rebus per omnes Vicipaedias curant.

Credo Neandrum et me nomina usorum [non nostrorum sed aliorum] celare posse, sed nunquam feci ego quia fere nunquam necesse est! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:43, 5 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possumus omnes de talibus celationibus hic Anglice legere. Ad caput historiae paginae alicuius, mi Neander, videbis verba "Monstrare/celare emendationes selectas". Sed non licet inconsulte facere. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:00, 6 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And that's Greek to me. However, there's some English to be read. --Pxos (disputatio) 13:14, 6 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gratias ago maximas pro consilio tuo, Andrea. Expedit enim et talibus machinis uti scire, a quibus manus auferre prodest. Neander (disputatio) 17:28, 6 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Archidioecesis Seulensis

Vale, carissime Andrteas! Tibi peto parvam relecturam huius pagine quae feci. Tibi magna gratias ago.

See you very soon!

Rei Momo (disputatio) 10:09, 6 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Andrew Dalby

Thanks for say "thanks" in my change of lingua lusitanica. --Gato Preto (disputatio) 13:41, 8 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vale

If I'm right I haven't seen you on vicipaedia since the last October 15th, are you all right? Ciao --Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 14:17, 21 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You were right, mi Helvetice! Thanks for your kind message. I was criss-crossing Europe to speak at two colloquia. Now I'm home. Having verified that my wife, mother-in-law and apple trees are all OK, the next priority is to look in on Vicipaedia, so here I am ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:42, 24 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I kept looking for you in pometo, but didn't see you there! IacobusAmor (disputatio) 15:56, 24 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

O quanto opere gaudeo te et tuas "ok" valere! Martinus [a.k.a. Neander (disputatio) 16:04, 24 Octobris 2015 (UTC)][reply]

Capsa hominis Vicidata

Dear Andrew, did you enjoy your time in Portugal? Were you well back home? I write to you because sometimes the capsa doesn't work properly. If you look for istance at Mauritius Pollini the birthdate appears in English and not in Latin. Could we fix it and how? Ciao--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 17:16, 29 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Massimo. I had a very good time in Portugal. I love Coimbra. I wish I was still there, but my apple trees called me home.

As regards the capsa, I think maybe all of them are wrong just at present. Every one I try is wrong. Yet if you look at the Wikidata page, all the dates are in Latin. Well, my conclusion is that this is far beyond us. Either (a) the Master of the Universe has decided that English is the only language that matters, or (b) some programmer somewhere pressed the wrong key. Let's look again tomorrow, and if it's still in English, we'll get advice from someone more intelligent ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:09, 29 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

they are again all in English. Aren't you angry all the work you did to create these capsas and now they do not work because somebody has changed a parameter? :-) --Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 16:36, 30 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I know what you mean, but I say to myself, "Vicipaedia is a work in progress"! We'll ask UV if he can understand it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:59, 30 Octobris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata is even more a work in progress, methinks. Sigh.

It's very odd: dates come out in English, but everything else seems to work ok. (Where a "Qnnnnn" appears, that is because there is no Latin label in the entry, so someone needs to go fill that in. Where multiple values occur, that is because none of the values has a more favored rating in the Wikidata item.)

I'll tell you what I've been told before over there: using Modules makes all of this much more flexible and robust. Calling things through the use of modules (such as en:Module:Wikidata and en:Module:Wikibase) just seems to be more flexible. But I'm not an experienced coder, so I'm not the one to do this.

Still, I'm willing to ask over there again, if you like. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 17:26, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, OK, to be honest, I knew all along I had to learn about modules and Lua and all that. It's just finding the time ... Thanks, Steven!

There is the other point (note what you said about Wikidata above): the more esoteric and useless information is added to Wikidata, the slower and less productive it is to work with Wikidata. It was worth spending about a day creating our simple Wikidata infoboxes, but whether the time spent learning Lua etc. will be repaid, I'm no longer quite sure! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:18, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I hear you. I've been stumbling through it myself. I've successfully implemented a module or two that someone else gave me (directly and personally), but that's about as far as I can go. (I'm admin/crat on Judeo-Spanish [Ladino] Wikipedia now.) These Wikidata modules are pretty involved, too. I agree with you: I'm not sure the time is going to be repaid in many cases.

One of the other issues around Wikidata is this: how often do we want a page to pull those data? How often do we need to check if a Wikidata page is updated? Obviously, it depends on what the page is. If the page is pulling the current identity of the President of this or Prime Minister of that, that's one thing. But how often do the facts about Charlemagne change, really? I do worry that Wikidata is sucking up a lot of time and energy we could use in other ways.

I've put in a handful of test calls to Wikidata in ladwiki, just to play. But I'm not very likely to work on that in any broad-based way in the short-to-medium run.

Was this template actually pulling dates out in Latin before? If so, maybe we can report that as a bug. If we can do that simply, it's probably worthwhile. If not ... 'Nuff said. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 19:34, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it really was. Helveticus noticed the change, and I did too, on 29 October, and that must be very soon after it happened, I'm sure. If you know how to report that, please do! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:03, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 22:41, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brief translation question

How would you translate the text of my standard userbox, seen here? (The last word is a transliteration of the Hebrew phrase "the Name", which is a common substitute word for an actual Hebrew name of God.) Thanks in advance. StevenJ81 (disputatio) 19:40, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Always seems odd to me the way we use the third person so impersonally in these boxes. Xenophon and Julius Caesar used the third person, but with their own names; we're different! "Hic usor paginam suam Nominis ope construxit", or, more personally, "Paginam meam Nominis ope construxi". "Nominis" seems right, but there may be a conventional way of expressing this substitution in Latin that I don't know. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:18, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. In re "Nominis": I'd guess, more likely, just "HaSem" (transliterated and indeclinable) or "Dei," I think. Speaking English, we either use some Hebrew locution (such as the one transliterated as "HaShem") or just the English word "God." We never actually say "The Name" in English. As to the third-person construction, that's a great point! (;-) StevenJ81 (disputatio) 22:41, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See my user page. I went with first person and Dei. Gratias! StevenJ81 (disputatio) 23:08, 2 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Georgia or anything related?

Hello Andrew, just interested if here's ever been any kind of monthly or annual wikiproject for Georgia or Georgia-related articles to be created in Latin wiki? There are literally lots of articles that would be great to have translated in Latin as for now only some few Georgia-related articles are presented here. Any plans on expanding a bit towards Georgia in la.wiki? Jaqeli (disputatio) 08:02, 16 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adieu

I do not agree at all. From my point of view the big problem is not for vicipaedia the presence of a lot of short pages, but that sometimes we have long ones that have anything to do with the Latin language or are full of big language mistakes. When I look at other wikipedias I do not see a big difference in the kind of pages (most of wikipedias have pages on the French communes with no more information than ours) of course if we do not include the biggest ones (English, German, French, Italian ecc.). With this unkind sentence " We're adding a thousand pages a month, of which about 900 are so short that they would count them as "placeholders", not stubs." I understand that the pages I do each month and each day (and whom I'm trying to ameliorate when I have time to do it) are completely unuseful. I stop here I have better things to do in my life. Bye Bye.--Helveticus montanus (disputatio)

Gratias

Intermissa, Venus, diu

rursus bella moves? Parce precor, precor. Autokrator (disputatio) 22:14, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Capsa hominis Vicidata

Dear Andrew, We've an other problem. Now the links to nationality are always red also for the nations we certainly have a page (USA, Germany etc.). Really we have a page for all the world's nations--Helveticus montanus (disputatio) 17:01, 30 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a new problem, Massimo. It's a question for Lesgles really: the links that he added usually work, but sometimes cause this confusion. In my view, the links were not very necessary because they usually are for details that should appear in the text as well ... but I must admit that they are sometimes handy. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:42, 30 Novembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have an example of a page where the problems occur? I might remove some of the links. Lesgles (disputatio) 04:35, 1 Decembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Non stipula

Vale, mi Andrea, nesciebam an possem ipse indicem "Non stipula" amovere, putabam enim hoc officium esse cuius hunc indicem posuisset. Faciam igitur ut me mones. Omnia optima tibi.--Viator (disputatio) 08:31, 3 Decembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De huius VP superficie

Salvus sis, Andrea! Dubito an tibi notum sit, cuinam instituta illa mutare liceat, quae ad eas huius VP partes spectant, intra quas hic versamur. Certe memineris illius mutationis nuper factae, qua pro Paginis custoditis nunc Paginae observatae positae sunt. Mihi quidem plura alia mutanda videntur, velut illae reliquiae exemplaris Anglici, velut ea, quae in taberna nuper proposueram, velut ea, quae nusquam effugere possis, cum aut nomen dare velis (illud enim conventum aperire certe quavis Latinitate caret) aut nomen tuum retineri velis (et legas keep me logged in). Quid tibi videtur optimum factu? Laurentianus (disputatio) 14:24, 11 Decembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cum te vehementer consentio, mi Laurentiane, sed ego has res technicas male intellego. Sunt fortasse plures qui melius possunt: quaere fortasse apud Disputatio Usoris:UV ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:31, 11 Decembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gratias tibi ago maximas, mi Andrea, qui hanc rem etiam in taberna collocasti. Et peractis laboribus subeundis UV pariter alloquar. Vale. Laurentianus (disputatio) 15:05, 11 Decembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citri et cervi

Since we're in the process of making Vicipaedian New Year's resolutions, I thought I'd remind you about the Citrus pages which are still marked "in progressu," and also about Cervus torquatus from a while back, in case you were planning on doing anything with those. Of course, I myself have a few pages to clean up. :) Lesgles (disputatio) 23:53, 14 Decembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite right, I had completely forgotten all of those! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:34, 15 Decembris 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De histrionibus

Dear Andrew,

Happy New Year. Yeah I agree with you the new list can be deleted when we have inserted all the new artists' names our old lists do not already have. CiaoHelveticus montanus (disputatio) 08:26, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

De iubilaeo Vicipaedianorum

Annum 2016 prosperum et felicem omnibus amicis Vicipaedianis opto! Apud Tabernam consentivimus annum 2016 (quem iubilaeum nostrum Helveticus nuncupavit) praecipue dedicare ad textum paginarum Vicipaedicarum augendum et meliorandum. Huic proposito consentiens (si tu consentis!) sic pro communi inceptu nostro agere potes:

Quando paginas novas legibiles, fontibus munitas, et non brevissimas creare vis, crea! Ne timeas!
Quandocumque paginam aut breviorem aut mendosam aut male confectam reperis, cura! corrige! auge!
Si paginam novam brevissimam creare in mentem habes, recogita ... An potius textum longiorem scribere oportet? An prius aliam paginam, iam exstantem, augere potes?

Quo dicto, Vicipaediani liberi sumus. Paginae etiam breves, quae inter veras "stipulas" admitti possunt (vide formulam "Non stipula"), accepturae sunt sicut iam antea accipi solent. Scribe igitur sine metu, sicut iam scripsisti! ^[en] Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:24, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Appius etc.

Cur "habuerint"? Est perfectum coniunctivi an futurum secundum?Burzuchius (disputatio) 15:46, 5 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Perfectum coniunctivi. Ego iam diu "habuerunt" scripsi: alii mox varias paginas in "habuerint" correxerunt. Ego eis credidi! Quid censes tu? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:50, 5 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Quid de (sub)titulo "Appii clari"? Laurentianus (disputatio) 17:01, 5 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ego contextibus generalibus verbum "notabilis" praefero. Omnes, quos describimus, "notabiles" esse debent, sed non omnes iam "clari" sunt! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:36, 5 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Usor Neander mihi responsum dedit. Vide eius paginam disputationis.Burzuchius (disputatio) 19:36, 5 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tarlac urbs

Hi Andrew, I would appreciate a warning, like a delenda notification before you delete. Thanks.--Jondel (disputatio) 13:25, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Jondel, it was an extremely brief article but I would have intended to put "Non stipula" on it, not to delete it at once. I'll restore it for you.

Done. I never guessed a Vicipaedian had created it! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:30, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Andrew. We all have to struggle with out time. Best regards.--Jondel (disputatio) 13:48, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Six months

Does Vicipaedia have a list of the nonstubs sorted in order of imposition of the formula, so that anybody can easily find the nonstubs in the most urgent danger of deletion? IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:46, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anne created such a list for us, but I don't recall where. I don't think the danger is urgent: no one is working to that date, so far as I know. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:01, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Found it. I'll put the link on your talk page. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:26, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sappho

Salve, mi Andrew! Pictura Alkaios et Sappho, 2416, Staatliche Antikensammlungen Monaci, ut mihi videtur, nunc bis hac in pagina apparet. --Bavarese (disputatio) 19:21, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Debbora non Debora

Debbora in latino. [2]Driante70 (disputatio) 14:50, 8 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cur me? An de Debora quadam scripsi? Haud memini. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:07, 8 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

de iubilaeo

Andrea si valeas quoque valeo! Nescivi nos hoc in anno iubilaei causa gaudere! Quam optime! Morbum scribendi loquendique Latine iterum patior, quare librum de rebus classicis tempore et civitatibus socialisticis ad censendum accepi. Puto me hic mox iterum versari. Consilio tuo (nostro?) et energiam in paginas nostras breves augendas dabo. Vale interdum! -- Ioscius ^∞ 18:00, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 Debbora in latino. [http://www.bugnion.it/approfondimenti/documenti/IlRaccontoSemiotico_Deborah_2.pdf][[Usor:Driante70|Driante70]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Driante70|disputatio]]) 14:50, 8 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
 :Cur me? An de Debora quadam scripsi? Haud memini. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:07, 8 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)
+== de iubilaeo ==
+Andrea si valeas quoque valeo! Nescivi nos hoc in anno iubilaei causa gaudere! Quam optime! Morbum scribendi loquendique Latine iterum patior, quare librum de rebus classicis tempore et civitatibus socialisticis ad censendum   accepi. Puto me hic mox iterum versari. Consilio tuo (nostro?) et energiam in paginas nostras breves augendas dabo. Vale interdum! -- [[Usor:Ioscius|Ioscius]]  <sup>'''[[Disputatio Usoris:Ioscius|∞]]'''</sup> 18:00, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)