Disputatio Vicipaediae:Pagina prima

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is this LATIN?[fontem recensere]

Why a wiki in a language that is not frequently used more? 202.142.129.178: 10.18pm ET, 10 mar 15.

But it is. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:41, 11 Martii 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Latin? 202.142.129.178: 9.22pm ET, 15 mar 15.
That's right. It's used by botanists and zoologists for describing new species, by these and other specialists for naming new species, by astronomers for naming topographical features on planets and satellites. It's an official language of the Catholic Church, used in its regular publications and in liturgy. It's used by many universities as a traditional language of academic culture. It's used as the standard international language in editions of Greek and Latin literature. So it's used, too, by all the people who want to read about these things, and by those who study the history of science, philosophy and the arts.
If you know Latin (and if you happened to be listening) you knew who had been elected pope before anyone else. A couple of minutes, maybe :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:38, 16 Martii 2015 (UTC)
Yep, I kiwi it all. Antiv31 (disputatio) 22:30, 17 Martii 2015 (UTC)
Ironically, the original post by "202.142.129.178" seems to be written in English by someone who doesn't write English well, and "202.142.129.178" has chosen to write in English because it is a common lingua franca. They wrote that Latin "is not frequently used more", which is correct English with the wrong meaning. The phrase should be "not frequently used anymore". Using the adverb "more" would mean that Latin is used "not enough" or "not as much". Latin, much like English, is and was an important lingua franca. If the original poster is going to ask that question in a language that is not their native language, then I think they already know the answer. The answer is the reason they learned English. (There are a few additional shibboleths of a non-native English speaker, it is not one word choice error by a possibly native speaker.) Fluoborate (disputatio) 19:20, 2 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

Vicipaedia (Wikipedia) offers encyclopedias in many languages. If you have a problem, go somewhere else. Besides, there's plenty of uses for Latin.

Latin is wonderful. "Vicipaedia" however, with a "c", is not: it's more like the encyclopedia of vices - which would be interesting for itself, i guess: ), but not a transcription of the hawaiian "wiki". I would even go so far and bet on "Uiquipaedia", which has the advantage of looking rad and conjuring meanings of "ubiquitous" or "everyone his own". 217.83.133.164 09:27, 10 Februarii 2019 (UTC)
The name is fairly odd in almost every language. I think it's partly because of the incomprehensible name that I never saw any reason to look at Wikipedia (in any language) in its first five years. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:45, 10 Februarii 2019 (UTC)

Why Latin?[fontem recensere]

After an introduction in Latin, Camillus Schuette explains in English. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 14:56, 16 Martii 2015 (UTC)

Why not? Seems to me most of these objections boil down to "I don't speak this language". Also looks to me like many Latinists are writing complete WP articles in their language of study. Further, this language appears to have standardised grammar, rules of spelling and style, a large body of literature, and, I'm told, a few weeks of history. I don't understand the WP obsession with eliminating "stuff I'm not interested in". Time wasted on such king-of-the-hill arguments would be much more valuably spent contributing to this service. Laodah (disputatio) 19:15, 5 Maii 2015 (UTC)

I agree. IllogicMink (disputatio) 11:10, 16 Maii 2015 (UTC)

Hello sorry I can´t speak Latin but I speak two of the "son´s languages of Latin".[fontem recensere]

Hello I wan´t to say 09 of October 1261 is the birthday of Denis of Portugal, I think it´s important to Main Page. I´m very happy with this Wiki in Latin, I´m sad because I can´t help but I wish the best for Vicipaedia! --Gato Preto (disputatio) 18:26, 2 Octobris 2015 (UTC)

Salve, Feles Nigra! We don't have an "on this day" section on our main page, but I just made a page for Dionysius (rex Portugalliae), and perhaps we can include an item for him in our "Scin tu?" (Did you know?) section. I was planning to update that sometime, or someone else might if they have the time. Lesgles (disputatio) 23:59, 2 Octobris 2015 (UTC)

Salve, ok very good if you need some help or ideas tell me! --Gato Preto (disputatio) 15:45, 6 Novembris 2015 (UTC)

OK, I just added four new "scin tu?" items, with good old Denis at the top. Lesgles (disputatio) 21:57, 6 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
The 13 of november is the birth of Aurelius Augustinus Hipponensis better known as Augustine of Hippo. --Gato Preto (disputatio) 15:36, 12 Novembris 2015 (UTC)

Main page tab[fontem recensere]

Shouldn´t the "Main page" tab (to the left of "Disputatio") be labeled in latin as well? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (disputatio) 15:06, 17 Novembris 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out. Lesgles has already initiated the change. Greetings, --UV (disputatio) 23:49, 19 Novembris 2015 (UTC)
Beautiful! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (disputatio) 16:31, 24 Novembris 2015 (UTC)

Scin tu ...?[fontem recensere]

Venus, si DISsimulat se puellam mortalem esse, nonne revera mortalis est? Nonne dissimulans se IMmortalem esse (vel: simulans se mortalem esse), mortalis vult videri, e. g. inter concubitum cum Anchisa? --Bavarese (disputatio) 17:05, 2 Septembris 2016 (UTC)

Recte dicis; commentarium igitur correxi. Lesgles (disputatio) 14:40, 6 Novembris 2016 (UTC)

Pagina "mensualis"?[fontem recensere]

Is "mensualis" latin? Shouldn't it be "Pagina menstrua"? --Grufo (disputatio) 17:10, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)

Yes, both Cassell's and Traupman say 'monthly' should be menstruus. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:37, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
However, menstrualis may not be wrong, as L&S have menstrualis also. IacobusAmor (disputatio) 17:40, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
See previous discussions here and here. Menstruus does seem to have the best authority. Lesgles (disputatio) 21:03, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
Menstrualis might also be correct, although it is a later word. Personally I prefer menstrua as Cassell and Traupman suggest, or even mensis, if everyone is against menstrua. What I have difficulty to find instead is any authority in favour of mensualis, which to me sounds just wrong. Just to list all the options, in Ecclesiastical Latin there exists also mensilis (I wouldn't vote for this one as well). --Grufo (disputatio) 22:09, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
The administration page (with talk page) about the page of the month is already called Vicipaedia:Pagina mensis and I think it always was. Nothing wrong with that name. I don't honestly know why it was called "Pagina mensualis" here ... Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:38, 10 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
We might write "ad paginas priorum mensium inspiciendas" on the front page, perhaps. A. Mahoney (disputatio) 12:15, 11 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
But where is, technically, the administration page where one can correct the name that appears on the front page? Are there admins with enough permissions here? --Grufo (disputatio) 01:17, 18 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
The page Vicipaedia:Pagina prima is protected, but if you open it as if for editing, and look through it, you will see that it mostly draws on a series of sub-pages which act as templates (for example, the first of these is Vicipaedia:Pagina prima/Praefatio). They are all helpfully listed at the foot of the screen after you open the editing window. You can click on anything on that list: in general, those sub-pages are not protected, and any Vicipaedian can edit them. You just have to identify the exact words you want to change, and change them!
Feel free to do this, but after saving your changes please check the result carefully by going to the pagina prima again (maybe reload the page). If you have made some unexpected error, and you don't see how to correct it, please revert your edit so that the pagina prima will appear as before. Then mention it here, and someone else will give it a try. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:39, 18 Septembris 2018 (UTC)