Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor/Mille desiderati de Roma antiqua commentarii
I made a few adjustments as I looked through the list of writers. The following
appeared in the list twice, so I took one of each out. Trimalchio is a ficitious character, and there might be other such worth including, so I made a section for them. I removed a couple of names that I felt confident were ghosts (and Philistio, unless there's another unknown to me, is a Greek author of about the 3rd century BC, not in any sense Roman). If you didn't want me to do any of this, just revert me! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 22:31, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- Macte, amice! Except for Persius, for which my source (don't ask which; it must have been one of the recently issued Loeb books) says his praenomen wasn't the Roman Aulus but the Etruscan (or whatever) Aules, so I've changed him back. IacobusAmor 22:41, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- It's your list! Anyway, I see we have him at Persius, so I've added a link to that. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 23:03, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. As for all those red emperors (and other famous people), I haven't had time or inclination to add blue alternate forms as redirects; but as you know, my opinion is that lemmas (hence titles) should start with full & legal names as known to the Romans, which usually include praenomen, nomen, and cognomen. Our man Cicero, for example, may have been called "Cicero" by his friends & enemies much of the time, but everyone would have known him formally to be Marcus Tullius Cicero, and that's therefore what his lemma should be. At the other end of the range, lemmas don't need to start with the absolutely fullest available version of names, as with Cicero's floweriest one, found on an inscription: M•TULLIUS•M•F•M•N•M•PR•COR•CICERO = Marcus Tullius, son of Marcus, grandson of Marcus, great-grandson of Marcus, of the Cornelian tribe, Cicero!!! IacobusAmor 23:20, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I know! On Cicero I agree with you. But in the special case of kings and emperors (of all countries) we have never seriously attempted to put their full names in lemmas -- and nor does any other reference source I can think of. I think it would look silly and help nobody. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 00:23, 11 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. As for all those red emperors (and other famous people), I haven't had time or inclination to add blue alternate forms as redirects; but as you know, my opinion is that lemmas (hence titles) should start with full & legal names as known to the Romans, which usually include praenomen, nomen, and cognomen. Our man Cicero, for example, may have been called "Cicero" by his friends & enemies much of the time, but everyone would have known him formally to be Marcus Tullius Cicero, and that's therefore what his lemma should be. At the other end of the range, lemmas don't need to start with the absolutely fullest available version of names, as with Cicero's floweriest one, found on an inscription: M•TULLIUS•M•F•M•N•M•PR•COR•CICERO = Marcus Tullius, son of Marcus, grandson of Marcus, great-grandson of Marcus, of the Cornelian tribe, Cicero!!! IacobusAmor 23:20, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)
- It's your list! Anyway, I see we have him at Persius, so I've added a link to that. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 23:03, 10 Augusti 2008 (UTC)