Disputatio Categoriae:Indices ducum civitatum

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Hmmm, we also have Categoria:Reges. Not sure how these should be distinguished: either the difference could be reges vs. principes (generatim), or it could be categoria vs. article. Or somethign else. --Iustinus 03:44, 4 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I hadn't noticed Categoria:Reges. I thought there would be some use for a category of lists of rulers (even if we only have about three right now), and I rather hastily chose princeps as a general term more general than rex, to include imperator, dux, and princeps in the narrow sense. Indeed, it would logically include praesidens too, I suppose ("first man", as in the US his wife is "first lady"). Do you think a different word would be better? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:12, 4 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
We currently have Categoria:Duces civitatum for Heads of State and Categoria:Gubernatores civitatum for Heads of Government. A category for lists of heads of States might become handy, why not call it Categoria:Indices ducum civitatum? --UV 00:24, 5 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
Yes, UV's suggestion is better than my hasty choice. Can we move the category before it gets any bigger? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:55, 5 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
Honestly, I would have prefered princeps, which at least in the middle ages and following often has the meaning of "ruler" (e.g. Machiavelli's famous book). Dux to me looks more like it refers to a military leader. --Iustinus 07:53, 6 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I see what you mean, and I originally had such examples in mind (as well as that of Augustus) but I still finally felt my first choice was unwise because
(a) Princeps is ambiguous
(b) Duces civitatum is already established on Wikipedia in this sense
(c) Duces civitatum is explicit and can really only have this meaning (whatever the senses of dux). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:12, 6 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)