Disputatio:Zingiber

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Sorry for english here, doing a lot at once: This page corresponds to the family page at en:, but there is a separate page en:Ginger for the spice. Maybe just zingiber (condimentum)? That seems weak, but maybe the right thing to do. Andrew? I know I'm bothering you a lot tonight ;] --Ioscius (disp) 22:11, 27 Decembris 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think so, but better check with Iacobus on this. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 22:25, 27 Decembris 2009 (UTC)[reply]
By all means, go ahead! ¶ Note that :en: defines ginger as "the rhizome of the plant Zingiber offinale"—but then it doesn't bother to have an article treating the plant itself! Nor does the rest of en:Ginger include the usual plant data, the descriptive matter found in articles on probably thousands of other plants. A curious omission! ¶ This question highlights a pervasive problem, caused mostly by the adoption of an old Latin word for a new taxonomical concept and then Vicipaedia's need to accommodate both senses. This afternoon, I noticed that the ancient animal pardalis had gotten linked to en:Ocelot, with a definition that didn't do justice to either term. (The ancient Greeks couldn't have known about the ocelot, endemic only to the New World.) So I whittled Pardalis down to words about the ancient world (its sense unclear, but now at least it's ready for somebody to survey the literature and tell us all about that mysterious Old World animal) and created a wholly new stipula for the ocelot, Leopardus pardalis. Which in turn brought into view the lemma (or, rather, lemmata) for "Pardus (-i, m.) sive panthera (-ae, f.), vulgo leopardus"—incomplete & misleading because the leopard is scientifically none of those, but Panthera pardus. Nor is it clear that panthera is always a leopard; Cassell's implies it's always a panther but maybe sometimes a leopard. Likewise pardus. My brain is spinning, so I'm leaving that one alone for now. As I pointed out somewhere a few weeks ago, the animals in Vicipaedia have been worse off than the plants. IacobusAmor 00:56, 28 Decembris 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm copying the bottom bit of this to Disputatio:Pardalis, where it seems equally relevant! Hope that's OK. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:47, 28 Decembris 2009 (UTC)[reply]