Disputatio:Res transitionis

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"Obiectum vulgo est strangulus, vel pupa ursi pro parvulis." Besides the fact that obiectum is not the proper word for object, what does this sentence try to say? Btw, ursus, ursi, non urus, uri.--Ioscius 20:20, 30 Augusti 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And yes, the pro consolando part isn't great either.--Ioscius (disp) 04:20, 6 Septembris 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"The object comonly is either a blanket, or a stuffed animal bear (doll of a bear) for children" is what a meant. While it doesn't matter because it is probably entirely wrong anyway I probably should have used "pupa in forma ursi" or "ursiforma" if such adjectives were common in latin. Alexanderr 04:46, 6 Septembris 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alexanderr, to address your question (from here and my talk page), such adjectives do exist. But the correct form is ursiformis, raniformis, and so on. See here for a list of such words attested in Classical Latin. They are in fact extremely common in Scientific Latin. In fact, I would say that it is a bit of overkill to refer to a teddy-bear as a pupa ursiformis, because it sounds too scientific: we're not defining a new species here ;) Pupa in forma ursi (or ursae), or pupa ursina will work better for the purpose of this page, at any rate. If you want to write an article just on teddy bears, then give me a heads up, and I'll look for good citations in my Neo-Latin sources (Heck, I mean... Winnie Ille Pu. Need I say more?)
Anyway, as an added bonus, here's how to form one of those adjectives:

  1. Take the stem of the word. This will look like the genitive, minus the ending (stellae > stell-, pueri > puer-, corporis > corpor-, and so on.)
  2. Add -i-
  3. Add -formis.

And here's how to decline them

Masculine/Feminine
Singular Plural
Nominative ursiformis ursiformes
Genitive ursiformis ursiformium
Dative ursiformi ursiformibus
Accusative ursiformem ursiformes
Ablative ursiformi ursiformibus
Vocative ursiformis ursiformes
Neuter
Singular Plural
Nominative ursiforme ursiformia
Genitive ursiformis ursiformium
Dative ursiformi ursiformibus
Accusative ursiforme ursiformia
Ablative ursiformi ursiformibus
Vocative ursiforme ursiformia

Hope that helps (and if anyone can format that table better, feel free). --Iustinus 00:05, 8 Septembris 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anglice "comfort object", fortasse res consolationis vel solatii? Aut "transitional object": res transitiva, transitoria, transitionis, transitús? Lesgles (disputatio) 04:47, 4 Octobris 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fortasse hunc sensum verbo q.e. "Consolamen" attribuere possumus? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:19, 4 Octobris 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Exempla aliarum Vicipaediarum secutus, ad tempus ad "res transitionis" movi, sed si quis alias notiones habet, s.v.p. recensete! Lesgles (disputatio) 22:54, 6 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Commentationes variarum Wikipediarum positae sunt in Donaldi Winnicott theoria psychoanalytica, secundum quam hae "res transitoriae" ad lactantium infantium alienationem pertinent. Quae quidem "transitio" opinione diutius durare potest. Etiam pannus tutelaris Lini van Pelt huc pertinere videtur. Quin etiam de tutaculo aut tutamento loqui possimus? Neander (disputatio) 08:58, 7 Februarii 2015 (UTC)[reply]