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Pronuntiatio aut Literarum appellatio (confer Castiglioni, Aloisius; Mariotti, Scaevola. Vocabolario della lingua latina, latino-italiano, italiano-latino. Quarta editio a Petro Georgio Parroni curata (Taurini, 2007).)--Massimo Macconi 20:13, 7 Novembris 2008 (UTC)

I think there is something wrong[fontem recensere]

  1. "Pronuntiation" is pronuntiatio in Latin, according to my dictonary.
  2. Vocalis and consonans are nouns of female gender and not neuter.
  3. All of these articles are titled Pronuntiatio... and not pronuntiatus, so if the first title is incorrect (that I think it IS the correct title), you must rename all of these articles.

Thanks, --El Mexicano 08:41, 8 Novembris 2008 (UTC)

Quod ad vocales et consonantes attinet, absque dubio recte dixisti: menda tollam.
De pronuntiatione autem minus feliciter me iudicavisse videris, cum indicibus qui verba ex popularibus sermonibus in Latinum vertunt nulla est fides. Immo vero opus est testes classicos citare qui vocabulum tali sensu adhibuerunt. Constant autem pronuntiationem vocare quod in foro declamatum est, aut histrionum modum legendi et agendi, neque quod ad singulas spectat litteras. Hoc antiquitus quidem dicebatur appellatio vel pronuntiatus vel locutio.--Ceylon 11:10, 8 Novembris 2008 (UTC)

Veritas est quod non scio dictionarium meum Latinitatem qualis temporum usat. Dictionarium Hungarico-Latinum (Aloysio Györkösy scriptum) Pronuntiationem dicit. --El Mexicano 11:28, 8 Novembris 2008 (UTC)

See Lewis and SHort, which says "Appellatio:... In gram. Pronunciation: suavitas vocis et lenis appellatio litterarum, Cic. Brut. 74, 259; Quint. 11, 3, 35"; the next closest match is "Pronuntiatus:... pronunciation (post-class.): ratio in pronuntiatu, Gell. 4, 17, 8; 15, 3, 1." So it seems the preferred term would be "appellatio", but "pronuntiatus" is also correct. See also the english page "en:pronuntiatio" wherein they describe the classic meaning of pronuntiatio as "Delivery" in rhetoric, and Lewis and Short where they describe pronuntiatio means:"A public declaration, publication, proclamation: quā pronuntiatione factā, Caes. B. C. 2, 25 fin. — Of the decision of a judge, Cic. Clu. 20, 56; Petr. 80; Dig. 48. — Of the proclamation of a public crier, Val. Max. 4, 8, 5" which basically means "announcement".--Rafaelgarcia 12:02, 12 Novembris 2008 (UTC)

You are right (I thought that my dictionary was not the best one :) --El Mexicano 12:41, 12 Novembris 2008 (UTC)