Disputatio:Ganges

Ganges fuit pagina mensis Novembris 2015.

Geographical basin[fontem recensere]

Iosephus Esmond Riddle et Thomas Kerchever Arnold, A Copious and Critical English-Latin Lexicon (1849-1872) (Textus apud Google Books) suggests "loca demissiora" (hence I tried "regionem demissiorem") for low-lying districts. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:42, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, that's an excellent example & source! I'll bookmark it. Thanks! ¶ I imagine that the topic of geography in general will offer numerous idioms that are missing from Vicipaedia because most of the geographic subjects so far covered have been rather formulaic: V est urbs X-milia hominum in Y prope Z, and that sort of thing. (How many paltry West European hamlets do we have, as against consequential conurbations in the rest of the world?) Ganges gets into details of terrain & culture that haven't yet typically come up in Vicipaedia. IacobusAmor 16:59, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forma nominis urbani[fontem recensere]

Hanc disputationem ad Disputatio:Varanasi movi. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:27, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pluralia locorum nomina[fontem recensere]

Do placenames plural in form (e.g., Athenae, Mycenae, Pherae, Pisae, Rusellae, Thebae, Tres Tabernae; Labici, Pompeii, Rubi, Veii) take singular or plural verbs? IacobusAmor 21:57, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Numerum pluralem secundum wikt:Athenae. --Alex1011 22:55, 11 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe. Secundum te ipsum ibi, 09:26, 23 Septembris 2006. ;) IacobusAmor 01:37, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The grammar book "Grammar of the Latin language, By Karl Gottlob Zumpt, Leonhard Schmitz, Charles Anthon" says: use plural verb except when in opposition to urbs, oppidum or civitas: [1], [2] --Rafaelgarcia 02:47, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good. So we have Athenae sunt but Athenae, urbs nobilissima, est. Presumably the proximity of the appositive and the verb is the governing factor? IacobusAmor 03:28, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite just due to the proximity, apparently, since in the text the same author says that, in other instances of plural in opposition with singular, the verb normally agrees with whichever is the subject noun, not the opposed noun. "Tullia, deliciae nostrae, ...flagitat" but "Athenae, urbs nobillisima, ... est. I think it must be because the romans did really think of Athenae as singular, but grudgingly submitted to the rule of grammar when they had no other choice.--Rafaelgarcia 11:11, 12 Martii 2009 (UTC)[reply]