Disputatio:Alseides

Delenda?

According to en:wiki, only one Greek author mentions these and he does not use the term Alseid. In other words, "Alseids" is a modern invention: whose, I don't know, because the list of nymphs at en:Nymph is not sourced. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:07, 23 Februarii 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, what en.wiki actually says is that Homer is the only poet in the classical writers to mention them—but this in fact is not even true; Liddell & Scott do have ἀλσηίς, and cite Apollonius of Rhodes ("τὴν δὲ καὶ αὐταὶ / νύμφαι ἀποφθιμένην ἀλσηίδες ὠδύραντο" — Seaton translates "Her death even the nymphs of the grove bewailed"). Apollonius is third-century BC—a bit late for "classical" Greek but not exactly what we might call modern ;) Mooney's commentary does say it is ἅπ. λεγ. I suppose the question is whether ἀλσηίδες νύμφαι is a fixed name or a one-off descriptor; but apparently mythographers have settled on the former, e.g. [1]. —Mucius Tever 16:53, 27 Februarii 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much for verifying, Mucius. I guess I was made unnecessarily suspicious by the long, unsourced catalogue of nymphs at en:Nymph, and therefore took the negative implication at en:Alseides at face value. I should have checked for myself! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:34, 27 Februarii 2010 (UTC)

Nunc Apollonium citavi. Sed in hoc lexico "nemorenses (Nymphae)" redditur. Estne pagina ad Nymphae nemorenses movenda? Vel fortasse contribuenda cum Dryadibus; vide hoc. Lesgles (disputatio) 18:47, 18 Iulii 2016 (UTC)